Transcript of Warren's Prayer

Very good quote.

 

If sin did not exists, their would be be no triumph over it that glorifies God.

Do you believe that God have a plan in allowing sin to enter the world?

 

Good post. Thanks

 

It also doesn't take a genius to see that some of the attacks against Pastor Warren are unwarranted and over the top.

Hope your not dis puh-leezed.

 

When a city was taken over by Israel in a battle and "utterly destroyed, all the spoils taken according to the Lord's command, it was viewed as "evil".

The evil associable as sin against humanity and against God is not what God "created", it is what the devil allowed to be birthed in his heart in direct opposition to the will of God.

 

Only you would like to think so.

 

I believe you are fundamentally wrong!

Your ideal pits God against Himself.

All sin is contrary to God, if it's not then God is responsible for all sin.

How can God who knows no sin, Jesus the Son of God never sinned, alow sin to NOT be contrary to His immutability? He can't!

God doesn't control every action of all things. Although He is not limited to the laws of science, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Grace is God's reaction to an action taken by the devil for fallen man, not for God's own actions.

I spoke generally to all who are "taking sides" with an ecumenicalist.

 

I haven't seen any attacks against the man, only expositions of the grossness of his errors.

It would do some alot of good to stop being so easily disallusioned by their insistance that when some one speaks against the words of another that it is NOT an attack against that person!

If this isn't true then you just attacked everyone who doesn't agree with you.:tongue3:

His "prayer" was nothing more than political tripe! Actually he is in danger of taking the Lord's name in vain by his "prayer"!

 

Are you bringing a railing accusation against the Holy Ghost as He prays for us with groanings which cannot be uttered?

 

How so? If God did not have a purpose for sin entering the world then why did He allow it to happen?

you only have two options here: either God allowed sin to come into the world (again not the originator) according to His purposes, or sin came even though God did not want it to. It that were true then God was unable to stop sin from happening. But such an idea, and I would think you would agree, is contrary to the picture of God we see in His word.

Amen. I agree. God is against sin and He holds man responsible for His sin.

I can not believe you are saying this. I guess your God is weak then, since He does not control all things. I personally would not want to live in world that is not completely governed by God.
You should not use the laws physics to get your theology. It leads to some strange ideas.

 

“The compassionate, the merciful” is, of course, a reference to the invocation at the beginning of every chapter of the Qur’an except one: Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim, “In the name of Allah, the compassionate, the merciful.”

What do you people think about that?

 

Perhaps, but are you sure?

Why could it not be a reference to Psalm 89:15

or to Psalm 145:8

or how about Lamentations 3:22

Sure seems like God is the compassionate and the merciful. Unless Warren has said he took the line from the Koran, let us not be quick to judge.

Again I am not a fan of Rick Warren. This criticism is just ridiculous.

 

His being called a "compromising fool" isn't an attack? Misrepresentation of his positions isn't an attack?

How in tarnation did you get that out of anything I posted?

 

I'm sorry, I don't like the fact he used the Muslim Jesus, "Issa." Issa is not the Son of God, is not the Savior, did not die on the cross, and did not resurrect.

I think he was trying to be too inclusive.

 

I find it interesting that we find ourselves picking fights with nonsensical issues.

Maybe we should all speak ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek.

 

It is not Muslim.. it is arabic..
That is like saying an English word is Christian...

 

BTW, Marcia, did you watch the inauguration? If you did, did you catch the poet after Obama's speech.. I thought of you when she said a line...

Something like a wiccan would say about doing no harm...

 

That would leave out the "experts".

 

But in the Koran, Jesus is "Issa."

Tim, don't you think he was trying to appeal to Muslims and Jews, using the terms for Jesus that they use?

 

I did hear most of the poem but I think I missed that line.