Translations and televisions - Where do you stand (or fall)?

Discussion in 'Bible Versions/Translations' started by Mike Berzins, Feb 14, 2007.

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Do you watch TV? Are you KJO?

  1. I am KJO. I do not watch TV.

    36.4%
  2. I am KJO. I am edified and the Lord is pleased as I watch several hours or more a week of TV.

    9.1%
  3. I am KJO. I have my liberty in Christ. I believe you are judging me. The question is offensive.

    9.1%
  4. I am KJO. I watched the Super Bowl.

    9.1%
  5. I am KJO. When I watch TV, I sometimes feel like I am sinning against the Lord.

    9.1%
  6. I am NOT KJO. I do not watch TV.

    18.2%
  7. I am NOT KJO. I am edified and the Lord is pleased as I watch several hours or more a week of TV.

    18.2%
  8. I am NOT KJO. I have my liberty in Christ. I believe you are judging me. The question is offensive.

    36.4%
  9. I am NOT KJO. I watched the Super Bowl.

    27.3%
  10. I am NOT KJO. When I watch TV, I sometimes feel like I am sinning against the Lord.

    18.2%
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  1. Mike Berzins

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    I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.

    Psalms 101:3

    Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

    Phillipians 4:8

    Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

    Romans 1:32
     
  2. Keith M

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    Okay, so where are you going with this, Mike?
     
  3. Mike Berzins

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    Not sure where it will go. I am genuinely interested in the responses to the poll.
     
  4. TC

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    Television is not a Bible translation issue. I know people that read MV's and don't own a TV and I know people that read only the KJV and watch a lot of TV. So, what is yer point?
     
  5. Mike Berzins

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    I am curious to see if the poll shows the same proportion you describe.
     
  6. TC

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    I did not give any proportion. I just said that I know MV readers that do not watch TV and KJV readers that do watch TV. I also know people in which the opposite is true. TV watching is not a Bible version/translation issue.
     
  7. Keith M

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    I agree. Mike why don't you post this in another forum and ask a mod to close the thread here in the BV/T forum? You may get more response in the "General Baptist Discussions" forum.
     
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    New Poll

    Check one:

    I am KJVO, and I eat whole grain oats for breakfast
    I am KJVO, and I eat Frosted Sugar Yummies for breakfast and when I do I sometimes feel like I am sinning against the Lord.

    I ‘m not KJVO, and I eat whole grain oats for breakfast
    I’m not KJVO, and I eat Frosted Sugar Yummies for breakfast and when I do I sometimes feel like I am sinning against the Lord.

    Rob
     
  9. Mexdeaf

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    I cannot vote in this poll- there isn't a choice for, 'You gotta be kidding me!':smilewinkgrin:
     
  10. Keith M

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    Maybe if Mike has the poll posted in another forum area he can include "You gotta be kidding me!" or at least "Other" and "None of the above" as options.
     
  11. Rufus_1611

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    When I read from the NIV, ESV, and NKJV, I loved television.

    Since transitioning to KJVO, I loathe television.

    I would appreciate it if people would just answer the survey, rather than mocking it, as it would be curious to see if there is a pattern to this issue.

    "Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners." - 1 Corinthians 15:33
     
  12. tinytim

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    I am not KJVO, and I only watch television in modern English...
    (I hate it when the producers have to translate in subtitles)
    I also never watch TV from 1611.

    The Poll is obiously bias in the questioning. You automatically assume TV watching is sinful.
    What about news, educational programing, Christian TV. Etc. There is no place for these answers.
    You should have left your opinions out of your questioning.
    There is no option for me to choose.

    A better idea would be to do something like
    I am KJVO I watch 0 hours each week
    I am KJVO I watch 5-10 hours each week
    I am non KJVO I watch 0 hours each week
    I am Non KJVO I watch 5-10 hours each week

    etc...

    This would give a much better idea.
     
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    It may be because you fell for the myth of KJVOism, you are also capable to fall for the legalistic teaching that all TV is bad.

    What about the internet?
    I find it strange to condemn the TV because of some bad programming, but it is OK to get on the internet. There are worse things on the internet, than on TV.
     
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    Hey, wait a minute....if I'm KJVO, wouldn't I enjoy BBC programming?

    Hopefully we'll see another thread: "Polls with a thinly veiled agenda: where do you stand or fall?"
     
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    I vote for this option. :laugh:

    Thanks Tim.
     
  16. Rufus_1611

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    I'd say that I came out of the "pick any Bible that works for you" myth.

    Television is hypnosis. Within a few minutes of watching television most people enter a hypnotic alpha state, this causes them to be susceptible to the influence of the information being given to them without the benefit of critical thinking (this is why Foxnews is so successful ;) ).

    The internet is interactive and people do not go into sponge states the way they do with television, although much of the internet content is becoming more television like and the same risk is there.

    Television is addictive. How many people in our society do you suppose could give up television for 30 days?

    The internet has similar addictive properties, especially as it pertains to pornography.

    Television is a controlled medium. You may think you have 50-100 channels to choose from but each of those channels ultimately get funneled up to 6-7 corporations and none of these Corporations have the spirit of God in them. Thus, when you watch television you are receiving the worldview of the spirit of antichrist.

    The internet is currently a free market of ideas. After the next "terrorist" attack or after congress gets rid of net neutrality this will likely change for the worse and the alternative media such as blogs, and Christian message boards will be squeezed out.

    Television is a porn-fest. I don't encourage that you do this but if you looked at a 1950's Playboy magazine, you would find that the "ladies" in those magazines wore far more clothes then most of the characters in television programming and television commercials and yet those magazines were called porn and television is not universally accepted as such.

    The internet is famous for it's pervasive porn. However, we choose the content we view rather than the channel choosing for us. If we stick to Christian sites and information gathering we should be able to avoid this content, though I have seen an increase in porn type advertising on news sites and even on Christian sites.

    Television is covetousness. A primary objective of television is to encourage it's audience to desire things they do not need that will fill a void in their lives.

    Internet advertising is increasing and they're starting to use similar advertising techniques.

    Television is a time burner. It's funny how often people complain about not having enough time to do things but in the next breath tell about how they saw "American Idol" or "CSI" or whatever.

    The internet can be a time burner or a source for productivity, depending on individual discipline. Their is nothing that can be done by an individual using television that works towards the Kingdom of God, there is much that can be done and has been done on the internet to serve the Kingdom.


    Summary:
    The television is what it is. The internet is what you make it to be. There are many pitfalls to the internet and once I can figure out a way to make a living without being on it, then I will likely work to eliminate it from my life as well. In the meantime, it is a valuable tool for communicating with people, and it is a valuable source for research that has assisted me in developing my worldview whereas, the television only warped it.
     
  17. Ed Edwards

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    Scripture of the day for Brother Rbell:

    1 Corinthians 9:22B (KJV1611 Edition):
    ... I am made all things to all men,
    that I might by all meanes saue some.
     
  18. Ed Edwards

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    I voted as I was when I was KJVO (I only used KJV cause
    I only had a KJV). I voted as I am now, a freedom reader.
    BTW, I neither loathe nor love TV. TV is a tool like a fork - do you
    love or loathe your fork?
     
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    1987 Bulletin Board response: Tee Hee

    1997 Bulletin Board response: :)

    2007 Bulletin Board response: :laugh:
     
  20. Ed Edwards

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    Rufus_1611: //The internet has similar addictive properties,
    especially as it pertains to pornography.//

    My pastor has studied and made studies that show about
    40% of all Baptist Pastors will be hooked on internet
    porn at some time in their life.

    Why can't they just go gamble the building fund
    away like normal people?

    I consider the Internet a tool just like TV is.
    BTW, the most common use of TV is as background
    noise to mask the noise polution from outside.
     
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