Trial Counselor = Infantry Soldier, I don't think so!

That's why I said that. If anyone here has had his service attacked, in this thread, it was you, Carpro.

It was just disgusting.

 

I believe what really galls you is that one is related to a democrat and you don't like the fact that he is held on the same level as Palin's son.

I think the Army will do all they can to keep both these soldiers from being put unnecessarily in harm's way. Just like the British did with Prince Harry.

Either way these men have served their country honorably!

 

I don't know that they received those. We have a ribbon for combat as well, but our Battle Group was awarded the Navy Expeditionary Medal.





The medal will be awarded to the officers and enlisted men of the Navy and Marine Corps who shall have actually landed on foreign territory and engaged in operations against armed opposition, or operated under circumstances which, after full consideration, shall be deemed to merit special recognition and for which service no campaign medal has been awarded.

I am able to wear a bronze star in mine, for another Persian Gulf tour. All before July, 1983.

 

You posted this inane remark which belittles the service of a lot of soldiers did you not? Think before you type. Please.

On a scale of 1 to 10, a "trial counselor" would be a 1. An infantryman would be a 10.

The dangers are not even close to equal.

 

I don't see the word equal or any suggestion of that in the text you quoted in the OP. Why are you angry/irritated?

 

What lessens it? The fact that the two of them are mentioned together because their parents are debating? Did someone say they were making equal sacrifices and taking equal risks?

 

I don't think being mentioned together means they are equal or that anyone thinks they are equal.

 

What you really want to say is that Track is a REAL man for carrying a gun and Beau is a sissy for not picking up a gun. A real man would never give up gun carrying, dust eating duty for a desk. And since Beau is not a real man, it's because of his daddy, you know Joe, the VP guy. So what I'm saying is that if you want a real man in office vote for a woman!

 

NCT, don't you love it when people talk for you ?

You have made your case well. I agree with you. But it is the way it is, isn't it ? The military doesn't give much in the way of fairness.

Go2Church, did you serve in a combat role, or a support role ?

 

Thanks.

But it doesn't concern me. Consider the source.

 

During the 1980s, Crewmen aboard several ships that were attacked were awarded the same Combat Action Medal that Marines get. :thumbs:

 

See my post at:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=1300329#post1300329

for an explanation of the drift of this thread!!!!!!!!

 

Bush got into the Guard only by the influence of his father, jumping over a waiting list of 100 more deserving men. Then he was AWOL for a long period while in the Guard. Kerry served in Viet Nam. Bush never saw Viet Nam. You call Bush a hero and Kerry a traitor. What a disgusting, distorted view.

 

First, this has nothing to do with anything on this thread, but let me sort this out for ya'll.

1. First, Bush had several hundred flying hours in those supersonic death traps, the F-102, and he ran several interceptions of Bear bombers--a daily thing during the cold war. He tried to get assigned to a combat fighter unit, but did not have the seniority. Yes, his father helped him get into the Guard, because the man wanted to fly jets, and that is the shortest route to a cockpit. I had a student in Air Force OTS who was the son of a state governor, and he had joined the Air Guard in his state for the same reason, that is, that they are guaranteed so many pilot slots, whereas if you are not ROTC or a Zoomie (academy troop) pilot slots were hard to get.

As an aircraft maintenance mechanic for 8 years and a maintenance officer for 12.5 years, let me assure you that every time GW got into the cockpit of that rattle-trap (the kind of junk they gave the Guard to fly in the old days) he took his life in his hands. Since he could not get an assignment to a combat unit, his interests wandered. You see, that is one of the things about combat pilots--there are so many of them who want to get into action that there is a waiting list! Yes, fighter jocks really are nuts!

2. More in line with the basic question of this thread, if a guy wears the uniform with honor, the rest is equal.

3. The problems with Kerry were twofold--first, he was reckless on the battlefield, and second, he did despite to the uniform after his service was over. He played into the hands of the people who murdered millions after we gave in in Southeast Asia, and he contributed to the destruction of the military. As one of those who rebuilt the US military in the 1970s, you have no idea how much guys like Kerry undermined the force. I will never forget the ashen faces and sick expressions on our faces as we sat and listened over the radio in Jan '77 as Jimmy Carter let the draft dodgers slide--the disgust and the hurt were palpable. We had done the right thing, they had done the wrong thing, and he just let them go. In one action, he turned me from a Democrat with a party heritage going back to 1812 into a Republican.

 

I was responding to this remark by Carpro:

I do remember how liberals tried to characterize Bush's service in the Air National Guard as "draft dodging" while praising the service of the treasonous Kerry.

I consider my remark to be perfectly on target. Tell me why it isn't.

 

I did. Do you not READ the posts before answering?