Trouble For John Walsh, And The Democrats Hope For A Senate Seat

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  1. Bro. Curtis

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    What is it with the Democrats and honesty, lately ?


    But one of the highest-profile credentials of Mr. Walsh’s 33-year military career appears to have been improperly attained. An examination of the final paper required for Mr. Walsh’s master’s degree from the United States Army War College indicates the senator appropriated at least a quarter of his thesis on American Middle East policy from other authors’ works, with no attribution.

    Senator John Walsh, 53, was elected lieutenant governor in 2012 after more than three decades in the National Guard.John Walsh: From the Military to PoliticsJULY 23, 2014
    Senator John Walsh, Democrat of Montana, second from left, at a Senate National Guard Caucus breakfast in Washington. He was appointed last month to the seat vacated by Max Baucus and is running for election in November, hoping that his career in uniform remains an asset.Montana Ex-Guardsman Now Must Fight to Keep Senate Seat Given to HimMARCH 22, 2014
    John WalshSenate Seat of Baucus Is Filled in MontanaFEB. 7, 2014
    Mr. Walsh completed the paper, what the War College calls a “strategy research project,” to earn his degree in 2007, when he was 46. The sources of the material he presents as his own include academic papers, policy journal essays and books that are almost all available online.

    Most strikingly, each of the six recommendations Mr. Walsh laid out at the conclusion of his 14-page paper, titled “The Case for Democracy as a Long Term National Strategy,” is taken nearly word-for-word without attribution from a Carnegie Endowment for International Peace document on the same topic.

    In his third recommendation, for example, Mr. Walsh writes: “Democracy promoters need to engage as much as possible in a dialogue with a wide cross section of influential elites: mainstream academics, journalists, moderate Islamists, and members of the professional associations who play a political role in some Arab countries, rather than only the narrow world of westernized democracy and human rights advocates.”

    The same exact sentence appears on the sixth page of a 2002 Carnegie paper written by four scholars at the research institute. In all, Mr. Walsh’s recommendations section runs to more than 800 words, nearly all of it taken verbatim from the Carnegie paper, without any footnote or reference to it. In addition, significant portions of the language in Mr. Walsh’s paper can be found in a 1998 essay by a scholar at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, a research institute at Harvard.

    For example, Mr. Walsh writes: “The United States will have an interest in promoting democracy because further democratization enhances the lives of citizens of other countries and contributes to a more peaceful international system. To the extent that Americans care about citizens of other countries and international peace, they will see benefits from the continued spread of democracy.”

    The Harvard paper, written in 1998 by Sean M. Lynn-Jones, a scholar at the Belfer Center, includes the same two sentences.

    Mr. Walsh does not footnote or cite Mr. Lynn-Jones’s essay, titled “Why the United States Should Spread Democracy,” anywhere in his paper.

    Both the Carnegie and Harvard papers are easily accessible on the Internet.

    In an interview outside his Capitol Hill office on Tuesday, after he was presented with multiple examples of identical passages from his paper and the Carnegie and Harvard essays, Mr. Walsh said he did not believe he had done anything wrong.

    “I didn’t do anything intentional here,” he said, adding that he did not recall using the Carnegie and Harvard sources……


    ….The master’s degree in strategic studies from the War College has benefited Mr. Walsh’s career: In a military evaluation the year after Mr. Walsh received it, his commander praised him for it, writing that he “leads his peers and sets example in maintaining continuous military education and training subjects pertinent to today’s leadership challenges.”




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  2. General Mung Beans

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    And I'm sure the GOP has been the paragon of honesty...

    Anyways, this is why Schweitzer should have run
     
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    You cannot deny Republican politicians pay a higher price when caught in a lie than Democrats do. That being said, I still believe the democrats are going to take a historic whuppin' this mid-term.

    Daines will win it, I'm sure. I support Roger Roots.
     
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    Well that was what most people said (including Democrats) regarding the Senate in 2012 until a few gaffes were made...
     
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    The NY Times is even against this guy now. They've got a whole page of one of his papers that shows both improper attribution and where he openly plagiarized.

    I can't believe people still think they can get away with these things in the world today. Stunning.

    Well, the voters will hopefully make the right decision and get rid of the guy. Hopefully.
     
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    I don't remember it that way.

    I remember that almost no one thought Republicans would take the Senate.

    Maybe you could provide a source for your information, including what the gaffes were.
     
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    I refer you to Congressman Todd Akin of Missouri.

    As for the forecast, FiveThirtyEight (as it turned out the most accurate electoral forecaster) projected the Republicans would gain the Senate for much of the summer of 2012: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/fivethirtyeights-2012-forecast/
     
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    Regarding Walsh, he's a sleazeball. He's blaming Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder for his plagiarism. [​IMG]

    One, the only drugs prescribed for PTSD -- and most are off-label uses for the disorder -- are antidepressants. Citing any of those medications as a reason for uncharacteristic behavior is iffy, if not an outright lie.

    Two, if he's depressed, he isn't suffering from PTSD. That isn't a criteria for PTSD. Intrusive or re-experiencing events, avoidant behavior, negative mood alterations or cognitions, increased arousal symptoms. Those are criteria for PTSD.

    Three, if he's depressed over a friend's suicide, it lasted a long, long time. A master's thesis takes months to write.

    He's being disingenuous. He's betting on sympathy for an all-too-common affliction of veterans to regain any support his plagiarism loses, and indirectly hoping for more sympathy and even admiration as a veteran.

    He's a sleazeball.
     
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    Every single person in a Masters or Doctoral program should rise up and yell at this man. What a terrible, terrible person. Trying to say he has PTSD and had to plagiarize.

    So sad. I have no faith in any person running for public office beyond the local level any more. A pox on all their houses.
     

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