Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. (KJV) I am posting this to all who might be on this forum who are truly IFB people, if there be any. I honestly don't have any clue what the folks on this forum really represent, but I know the ones I have read do not represent most IFB churches. It's easy to understand what the IFB believe and represent. Just go read their statements of faith all over the place. Then read what is mostly posted here and compare!! This is probably a RELIGIOUS group, but you probably won't find much Christian LOVE represented on here. So, my advice to you who truly are IFBs, get off here and shake their dirt off your feet as you go. I'm afraid I don't know WHERE you should go, but this certainly isn't where you should be. The name of the list is deceiving, but it ties right in with the verse I quoted at the start. For those of you who are SINCERE, the IFB folks stand is pretty well cut and dried where teaching is concerned. We reject and separate from NEW EVANGELICALISM, ECUMENISM, FALSE TEACHERS (any person or group which teaches something other than what can be found in the New Testament) and, of course from the WORLD. We believe the Bible is wholly true and that it is our total basis for faith and practice. Those who don't accept the above are NOT IFB. They may call themselves IFBs, but it is a FALSE claim. One can call oneself anything they want, but the truth will come out as soon as they open their mouth or keyboard. All you have to do is KNOW the truth and sit back and absorb what is being said. What are YOU...............really? However, if some Godly man will show that there is a difference between FUNDAMENTAL BAPTISTS and INDEPENDENT FUNDAMENTAL BAPTISTS, that would be a different matter. However, since ALL Baptists are INDEPENDENT, that would be hard to explain! I truly believe the name of this group is totally misleading and it should be changed............or.............false teachers, according to the name, should be excluded. As I posted yesterday or the day before, who would you expect to be on a forum entitled: "PROFESSIONAL PLUMBERS FORUM"? Certainly not "AMATEUR PHOTOGRAPHERS".