Twenty Minutes With The President

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  1. poncho

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    I recently had the pleasure of sitting down with our 44th President of the United States of America, Barack Hussein Obama, while he was out promoting his health care reform initiative. I requested 30 minutes given the scope and detail of my inquiry; they said I could have 20. Twenty minutes, 1200 seconds, not a lot of time to question the President about one of the most important events in our nation’s history. The following is a transcript of our remarkable discussion.


    Read Transcript Here.

    CS – Mr. President the parallels are not distorted just because you say they are. Let’s stick to the facts. You promised to abolish the Patriot Act and then voted to re-authorize it. You pledged to end warrantless wire tapping against the American people and now energetically defend it. You decried the practice of rendition and now continue it. You promised over and over again on the campaign trail, that you would end the practice of indefinite detention and instead, you have expanded it to permanent detention of “detainees” without trial. This far exceeds the outrages of the former administration. Call me crazy Mr. President, but is this not your record?
     
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    I put Sheen and Obama in the same cart, certified whacko Marxists.
     
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    As I started reading it, I thought that it was a bit weird that "the one" would give even 20 minutes to Sheen. Turns out I was right.

    I did however find that same paragraph to be quite compelling.

    "You promised to abolish the Patriot Act and then voted to re-authorize it. You pledged to end warrantless wire tapping against the American people and now energetically defend it. You decried the practice of rendition and now continue it. You promised over and over again on the campaign trail, that you would end the practice of indefinite detention and instead, you have expanded it to permanent detention of “detainees” without trial. This far exceeds the outrages of the former administration."

    I find it quite humorous that the same people on the board who were most vocal in criticism of Bush now are enthralled with Obama - who is merely an extension of Bush - albeit worse than Bush.
     
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    I wouldn't expect anything less from you OR ole buddy. You always resort to character assassination whenever there is clear evidence you'd rather not look at or discuss. It's just your way of looking the other way, I totally understand. :thumbs:

    targus said, "I find it quite humorous that the same people on the board who were most vocal in criticism of Bush now are enthralled with Obama - who is merely an extension of Bush - albeit worse than Bush."

    It's almost like Obama has made them go mute or something. Tells me they care more about having one of their own in office than they do about their liberty or the sad state of the republic. Reminds me of some republicans I know as well.
     
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    The title of the story is fallacious. The entire thing is a fiction in the mind of Mr. Sheen.

    "Author’s Note: What you have just read didn’t actually happen"
     
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    I doubt that either Sheen or Obama would truly consider being called a Marxist character assassination.

    As MP has noted:

    Author’s Note: What you have just read didn’t actually happen… yet.
    This is an open letter to the President requesting a new investigation.
    Charlie Sheen.


    I was wrong! Sheen is a bigger whacko than Obama!
     
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    Yep, the whole thing is fiction OR. But Charlie does bring up some points you're working real hard not to notice. This isn't about Charlie Sheen or Barrack Obama it's about the evidence surrounding 9/11. It's been almost eight years and the questions aren't going away and the voices asking them are still multiplying.

    Guess all the denying and demonizing isn't working out to well. But I expect it will continue. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Mr. Sheen is asking great questions. Nobody here wants to answer.....
     
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    Is anyone here familiar with the work of Dick Eastman of Yakima, WA?
     
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    Charlie Sheen's Video Message to President Obama

    According to youtube this video has only had 303 views but there are 1,894 comments. Strange huh? You figure it out.

    Google searches on 9/11 "explode".

    Another example of how Charlie Sheen’s “20 Minutes With The President” letter is making 9/11 truth go viral during the week of the eighth anniversary. Google searches for “9/11 Conspiracy” are through the roof.

    See for yourself at http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=9%2011%20conspiracy%2C&cmpt=q

    This graph only plots searches up until Tuesday, which is when Sheen published his letter, so the figures will probably only rise higher.

    Figures for previous 9/11 anniversaries do show spikes, but nowhere near that achieved in the aftermath of Sheen’s letter.

    SOURCE

    City of New York Concedes 9/11 Coalition Has 30,000 Valid Signatures To Put Referendum For 9/11 Investigation on November Ballot

    If the referendum passes in November, it would lead to the creation of a local, independent commission with subpoena power that would be tasked with comprehensively reinvestigating the attacks.

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    Mr. Roff, 9/11 Truthers Are No "Fringe" movement

    U.S. News & World Report hit piece omits that fact that the majority of the 9/11 Commission members question the official story.

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    The establishment media are still operating under a deluded and contrived perception of public opinion that has no correlation whatsoever to reality itself.​

    Roff goes on to reference Van Jones and dismiss 9/11 truthers as a “fringe element” but concedes that they are politically influential and that establishment Democrats and Republicans “need to deal with them”.
    Just by coincidence, while arguing that 9/11 truthers represent a “fringe element,” Roff fails to mention that the majority of American citizens doubt the official government version of events.​

    He also fails to acknowledge the fact, as strongly emphasized in Charlie Sheen’s letter to the President, that the majority of the 9/11 Commission members publicly denounced the official story and stated that the government agreed not to tell the truth.​

    He also conveniently fails to highlight the fact that literally thousands of credible individuals both in and out of government, military leaders, intelligence professionals, legal scholars, architects and engineers, have all publicly questioned the official 9/11 story.​


    Note: I didn't post this thread so as to start another debate on 9/11 we've all been through that time and again here. I didn't start this thread to sing Charlie Sheen's praises or to bash Obama.​

    I started it because more and more people are doubting the "official conspiracy theory" everyday with no sign of letting up. Two things are for sure now the 9/11 Truth movement isn't some "fringe" element and it isn't going away.​
     
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    Last night on Bill O’Reilly’s Fox show, Geraldo Rivera went after Charlie Sheen and dismissed his call for a new investigation into the attacks of September 11, 2001, as the ravings of a lunatic. “It’s like one of these things like Area 51 with the aliens in New Mexico,” said Rivera (Area 51 is in Nevada). “I think [Sheen] has a trip gene, or a screw loose.”

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    Rivera’s claim that a benevolent U.S. government would not attack its own citizens is disproved by the historical record.

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    Appearing on The Alex Jones Show today to discuss his video address to Barack Obama, Charlie Sheen has challenged those who have publicly attacked him for speaking out on 9/11, particularly Meghan McCain, Rush Limbaugh Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly, to debate him on CNN’s Larry King Live

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    Amongst the scoffers and debunkers, not one corporate media outfit has managed to actually address a single point Sheen raised in his letter, resorting instead to childish quips and badly researched proclamations.

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    A familiar theme arising out of such hit pieces is an effort to imply that Sheen’s questioning of the official 9/11 story is somehow an “outrage” and hurtful to the family members of the victims, despite the fact that the majority of victims’ family members share the same questions.​

    Furthermore, claiming that people who doubt the government story are on a par with holocaust deniers completely ignores the fact that six of the ten 9/11 Commission members, along with scores of other highly credible former and current government officials, intelligence professionals, military officials, scientists, structural engineers and architects, and legal scholars have all publicly questioned the official version of events behind September 11.​

    SOURCE

    Typical tactics of people who dare not openly debate the facts. Character assassination, poisoning the well, misdirection and ommissions. I thought the whole idea of being a journalist or investigative reporter was to reveal the facts and give us accurate information.

    Charlie Sheen may not be the right person for this job but at least he's got the gall to try to get the facts and accurate information out to the people. The fact that the mainstream media is fighting this in a typical childish fashion instead of taking him up on his challenge to an open debate should tell us something.

    They don't dare. Funny a guy like Charlie Sheen can scare the whole establishment so much they feel they have to gang up on him from afar without having the guts to face him in an honest open debate. But then it's not really Charlie that scares them at all is it? It's not Charlie or his checkered past or his political leaning that has them all up in arms. It's the truth that scares them because they know if everyone learned the truth they themselves would be revealed to be the phoney shills and crooked conmen they really are and always have been.
     
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    Regarding Poncho's statement in post #10:
    According to youtube this video has only had 303 views but there are 1,894 comments. Strange huh? You figure it out.

    Here now's reply regarding that:
    People can reply more than once on any video so that happens alot with posters replying to other posts.

    Not trying to hijack just passing on info to your puzzlement of this matter.
     
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    That works out to 6.25 replies for each of the 303 responders. Which is possible I reckon, but surprise! This is what I found when I went back to double check the numbers today.

    275,554 views with Text Comments at 15,297 and Video Responses at 261 the numbers have increased slightly from the looks of it. Thanks for the help! I probably wouldn't have gone back to this video if not for your input.

    The article below is from James Corbett.


    On this eighth anniversary of the tragic events of 9/11. the movement of concerned citizens who do not believe the U.S. government’s official explanation of those events (the clear majority in poll after poll after poll) only continues to grow, emboldened by breathrough after breakthrough in their efforts to bring the glaring inaccuracies of that official explanation to the attention of the general public.

    Perhaps no greater sign of the success of the 9/11 Truth movement can be found than the fact that the discredited corporate media has begun another round of ferocious and transparent hit pieces designed to sling mud at those seeking real answers to the still-unanswered questions of the victims’ family members and real justice for the first responders who are dying as a direct result of government lies.

    From Psychology Todays ridiculous hit piece insisting that skepticism about government explanations is a form of insanity to National Geographic firing explosives into a fiberglass chicken coop, it seems that the corporate media is becoming more and more desperate (and even downright comical) in their attempts to stop people from questioning the very 9/11 commission that has been called a fraud by six of its own commissioners.

    Most of these attacks on 9/11 end up focusing not on the evidence itself, but on one inevitable question: “Why do ‘conspiracy theorists’ believe what they believe?” Of course, this question is coming from the self-same media conglomerates who speak in unanimity against 9/11 Truth and then wonder why newspapers are going the way of the dodo and people are turning off the TV in droves, so we can assume the question is either disingenous or that the corporate media bigwigs are, shall we say, intellectually challenged.

    In case anyone is interested in why 9/11 Truth has become a part of the popular consciousness, here are some of the incredible breakthroughs that have occurred just in the last year to add even more weight to the 9/11 Truth argument.

    CLICK HERE

    Those uninterested in any of the foregoing are welcome to close their web browser and go back to the corporate media boobtube where they can watch Bill O’Reilly call anyone who has questions about 9/11 a “Pinhead.” Supporters of the corporate controlled media may have to watch out, however, as the corporate stooges who are shoveling out such infotainment continue to lose audiences, revenue and credibility.

    Jonathan Elinoff of Core of Corruption released a video archive of suppressed 9/11 Truth stories from the controlled corporate media itself just last month [Link], including over 150 videos like this one:

    Complete News Archive
     
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    Did you read the whole article? At the bottom it says:

    Author’s Note: What you have just read didn’t actually happen… yet.


    This is an open letter to the President requesting a new investigation.
    Charlie Sheen.
    Charlie Sheen is going to be on Alex Jones’ syndicated radio show live twice this week. This letter to the President is only the opening salvo in a chain of key events. Read more details here and tune in at 11am CST when Alex will lay out this exciting new development. Sheen first appeared on The Alex Jones Show in March 2006 to air his doubts about the official 9/11 story, an interview that garnered national attention and put the issue of 9/11 truth at the forefront of public debate.
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    IO totally agree with everything Charlie didn't say but might have said as provided here. There is no way 9/11 happened the way the government conspiracy theory says it happened. I support a real investigation not the sham we had.
     
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    Well, paunch. Kinda embarrassing to post something from an article that explicitly says it was all made up, ain't it?
     
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    You need to read post 7.

    I seriously question whether you read the entire OP piece.

    My guess is that you looked at the title and then simply skipped to the end - kind of like you did with this thread. :laugh:
     
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    Uh, try to keep up okay? :type:
     

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