Two Cows

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  1. Salty

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    The Definitions of Government

    [SIZE=+2]The biggest problem in defining government is that it is difficult to separate government and economics. Democracy for example is very different from Capitalism. The Media also uses terms like "Communism" to describe a government system as well as an economic one. Before we get into the definitions we will use in class let's take a peek at the COWS..............
    The 2 Cow System...

    SOCIALISM: You have two cows. You keep one and give the other to your neighbor.

    COMMUNISM: You have two cows. The Government takes both and shares the milk with you and your neighbor.

    FACISM: You have two cows. You give the milk to the government and they sell it back to you.

    NAZI-ISM: Government shoots you and takes both cows to give to those more worthy..

    CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

    PURE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors decide who gets the milk.
    REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors elect someone to tell you who gets the milk.
    AMERICAN DEMOCRACY: The government promises to give you two cows if you vote for them. After the election the president is impeached for speculating in cow futures. The press dubs the affair "Cowgate". (sorry just a joke...I couldn't resist!)
    ANARCHY: You have two cows. Your neighbors try to kill you and burgal your cows.
    FLOWER POWER : Wow, dude, there's like .... these two cows man. You gotta try some of this milk. (sorry again...weird mood today!)
    Special Thanks to: homepages.ihug.co.nz/~Sdpowell/jokes/Cows.html for some of these definitions!
    Ok, on the serious side.....
    How many governments are there in the world? Are they the same? How do they operate? Why? Let us take a look and generalize...........
    For all intent and purposes there are only two types of world government today. They occur in varying degrees, and these are by no means absolute.
    1) Totalitarianism
    2) Constitutionalism



    Totalitarianism is a governmental system in which the government attempts to control all aspects of the individual's life. The totalitarian system ususally has one leader centered at the top of the government who rules for life. He is typically surrounded by a smaller group of advisors who carry out the will of that person. Nazi Germany and the former USSR are past examples of this. Today, some examples are Cuba, the People's Republic of China; and certain Middle Eastern countries. Although very much common in the past through "Monarchy" (the rule by a King or Queen, born into the job), and recently through military and political control, the totalitarian system is beginning to disappear because of its affects on economics.
    Constitutionalism is a government form that attempts to limit the scope of government in the average citizen's life and attempts to guarantee individual liberties. Constitutionalism occurs in degrees from country to country , however. Examples today would be the USA, Great Britain, France, etc. Most countries of the world since 1989 have decided that government must be to some degree constitutional to endure economically for long periods of time.
    In any country, whether constitutional or totalitarian, the authority is divided into smaller or larger units. The amount of control between these units is defined in one of two ways:
    The "unitary" or "federalist" model has the majority of the power in a country concentrated at the "federal" or "country" level. This means that the federal government has realitively more power than the smaller divisions. The United States is an example of this today. For example, if Congress passes a national law and it proves to be constitutional, the states may not disobey it.
    The "confederation" model is the opposite of the "unitary" model. It holds that although there is a federal government, the "states" or other smaller units have the most power and are able to veto laws made at the federal level. When the United States started it was governed under what was then called the "Articles of Confederation." This system gave more power to the states and proved to be impractical at the time. When the South suceeded from the rest of the United States at the start of the Civil War it was basically over this issue. Who had more power? The federal government or the states? The "Confederate States of America" were founded on this principal that the states should have more power than the federal government.
    In the Media today, the following terms are used. The generalizations above are of strict government definition and theory. As stated before it's difficult to separate economics and government.
    Democracy: A government that is run by the people who live under it. Pure democracy is a myth. In the USA for example, the President can be elected to office without a majority of the peoples' vote. The President is elected by "electors" from each state.
    Communism: Typically an economic system in which the government owns or controls almost all business and manufacturing activity. The term has been used to describe the totalitarian governments of some countries where there is a military dictatorship.
    Socialism: The terms "socialism" and "communism" are the same when discussing economic activity. In terms of government, socialism varies in degree from one country to another:
    • Socialism and Democracy: Limited government interference in business activity, (as opposed to the above) but more than in capitalism. Certain areas of an individual's life are controlled and representation tend to be parlimentary in nature. In other words, people vote for a particular party and the party elects the leaders of the country. The notable difference here is that there is MORE THAN one party.
    • Socialism and Communism: Severe government interference in economics, but not absolute. Centralized planning by the government, ONE PARTY rule, and stresses that there should be only one class of people. This differs from Socialism/Democracy which allows for individual differences.
    Facism: Absolute control of a country by a dictator. Essentially no individual freedom what-so-ever. Business is told how to operate, also. Term is used to describe (ususally) the governments of Italy and Germany between World War I and the end of World War II.
    Monarchy: A government that has a single person who is generally considered the ruler by the title Czar, King, Queen, Emporer, etc. The job is ususally passed down to family members. This type of government was prominent in the world before World War I and is still popular in some areas, however, the power of the Monarch is limited. Queen Elizabeth of Great Britain is an example, and her oldest son Prince Charles will become King when she "abdicates" or dies. She has no real political power. Another example is King Abdullah II of Jordan who still has a lot of political power.
    Dictatorship: Generic term used to decribe any government controlled by a single individual and giving the people little or no individual freedom. Typically a person who rules by threat of force.
    Marxism: The theory of government based on the ideals of Karl Marx and Frederick Engels in the book The Communist Manifesto written in the 1800's. The book was the basis for modern communism and socialism, and advocates that in every society the "workers" should rise up and overthrow businesses and government and take control themselves. Marxism advocates a classless society in which everything is shared and owned by all.
    Capitalism: By definition, an economic system that is based on buying and selling as well as the ideals of supply and demand. Capitalism depends on a more constitutional form of government for it to be successful because it is a fact that too much government interference in business dealings prohibits economic growth.
    [/SIZE]BACK SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW
     
  2. KenH

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    It is pretty clear that our nation has been moving in the direction of Democratic Socialism since at least the presidency of Theodore Roosevelt.
     
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    My cow died, so I don't need your bull! :laugh:
     
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    A Christian has two cows - gives them both to his church to help others - then prays to God to provide a cow and a bull
     
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    bump in honor of TEA party day
     
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    Is there a good reason for posting in large print?

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    Is there a good reason for quoting the entire post.

    anyways, no, I do not remember why I did, could be I wasnt able to reduce the size

    But, more important, what are your thoughts about the "2 cow theory"
     
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    Thank you Lady Eagle

    any more additions to the two cows :type:
     
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    Well, with what we have seen of the Obama health care plan...

    First you rant and rave about how 47 million Americans have no acess to a cow. Then you come up with a goat/donkey hybrid that all Americans will have to live with instead of a real cow. Finally, keep the cows for yourself because you are the elected royalty.
     
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    What we haven't been told and few know as it is not commonly published..... government and its agencies in our country have 2 economies. One is the budget....which is always touted publicly and is brought up, reflective of the tax revenues expected and the expenses of agency budgets.

    The other 'economy' consist of the government's and its various agencies.... from local to state to national: Each has its own "Comprehensive Annual Financial Report" which consists of all INVESTMENTS and Capital owned (including Wall Street Investments etc.) which is reflective of capital ownership (property) and revenue production. IOW, the government and many agencies of the government has revenue producing investments NOT reflected in the budgets which is made public.

    It is not only possible...... but probable that the US government ALREADY owned more than 50% of GM's stock..... (at least collectively through all its agencies) which legitimized the control and legal right to oust the CEO.... and to dictate, if necessary, board members and direction of company.

    Since government already owns the cows...... is it not reasonable to understand why government is in the process of regulating and eliminating all competition...... and individual capacity to be independantly resourceful..... out of existance? It's not about money.... though business and banking thinks so..... it is also about controlling us and making us all dependant.
     
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    Yep, I agree.
     
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    And to depopulate (via abortion and medical murder for the elderly and infirm) so the masses are easier to control.
     
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    Hey you forgot one.

    communitarianism

    Political and social philosophy that emphasizes the importance of community in the functioning of political life, in the analysis and evaluation of political institutions, and in understanding human identity and well-being. It was developed in the 1980s and '90s in explicit opposition to the theoretical liberalism of thinkers such as John Rawls. According to communitarians, liberalism relies on a conception of the individual that is unrealistically atomistic and abstract; it also places too much importance on individual values such as freedom and autonomy. Its chief representatives include Amitai Etzioni, Michael Sandel, and Charles Taylor. See also collectivism.

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