U.S. Hawks are Ahmadinejad's Best Friends

Discussion in 'Politics' started by KenH, Jan 30, 2007.

  1. KenH

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    If we can get the hawks to stand down we might see a major change in Iran.

    "The honeymoon is over. Iran's controversial president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has finally come unstuck. His popularity with the Iranian electorate - the subject of much incredulous analysis in 2005 - seems to be falling back at last, and the country's latest exercise in populism seems to be reaping the rewards of unfulfilled promises bestowed with little attention to economic realities."

    - rest at www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2001633,00.html
     
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  2. DeeJay

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    You mean like during the Clinton years, when we did not even respond to attacks on our war ships.

    I see what you are saying, we all know there was no terrorisem or extremists during those years.
     
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    Saudi Arabia is secretly keeping oil prices down, to upset Iran's economy, or so say several right-wing pundits, and it's working. Without one missle.
     
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    No, he talking about the Reagan years, when 241 of our Marines were killed in Lebanon and all Reagan did was to cut and run!
     
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    Or that. One of Reagan's few mistakes. Or Clintons black hawk down, or GHWBush's not finishing the job in Iraq the first time.

    But that does not change my point that the standing down of "hawks" does not make extreamests change their ways.
     
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    Reagan had plans drawn up, but was restrained by Caspar Weinberger, and in retrospect, it was a huge mistake.
     
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    Why, when it is Bill Clinton, it is all his fault, but when it is about Reagan, the blame is deflected somewhat to someone else? Remember, 241 dead Marines, and a cut-in-run policy implemented by a Republican, Ronald Reagan.
     
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    I don't think I blamed Clinton. I have always blamed the terrorists for 9/11.
     
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    I fear that we may have to reinstitute the draft if we go to war with Iran.

    I really hope that we don't go to war with them.
     
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    Sorry Bro. Curtis. I wasn't talking about you in particular, just the general sentiment.
     
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    I think what is being said here is that the one thing that unites countries like Iran behind their current leadership, however bad, is an attack by an external enemy.
     
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    Simple, really.

    Clinton did a poor job overall during his term of protecting the interests of the U.S., which did inevitably play a major part in leading to 9/11.
     
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    Yes, it is very simple. At a time when our military needed support, Reagan dishonored the death's of 241 Marines by Cutting-and-running!

    Actually, I think that Clinton did a good job as president, other than signing George H. W. Bush's NAFTA treaty, that is.
     
  14. redbelt

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    Terry...

    First, do you remember the military that President Reagan got after Jimmy Carter? The first time I served in our military was from 1983 to 1991, so I remember it pretty well. It took years to build up to where we needed to be. I was in Texas as a new airman when those Marines died. We thought we would be on the next flight over, but we were still in the process of building up our military.

    In my humble opinion, President Reagan is probably the finest President I could ever have served under... period!

    Secondly, President Clinton helped to hurt our military in sending info to the Chinese for missile development. Did you hear about the recent satellite that the Chinese were able to shoot out of the sky? It has President Clinton's hands all over it. We had the World Trade Center first attack, the embassy attacks, those brave American Soldiers who were dragged through the streets of Somalia because our President failed to allow them the uparmor equipment that they begged for. The attack on the Cole.. of course he did send some missiles into that Aspirin factory, I have to give him credit for that.

    Without even all of his personal problems... you still really think President Clinton did a good job?
     

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