UAE port takeover - It's 22 ports, not 6 as originally reported

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  1. LadyEagle

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  2. KenH

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    I have no problem if it's 6, 22, or 100.

    I had thought that most Americans had left the idea of being isolated from the the rest of the world back in the 1930s.
     
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    Bush is ignoring 83% of Americans in going forward with this disaster, which involves 22 ports not 6.

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    ARABIANS AT THE GATE
    22 ports in Arab deal, not just 6 as reported

    Scope of Dubai firm to stretch from Maine to Gulf of Mexico
    http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48991
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    Posted: February 24, 2006
    3:00 p.m. Eastern
    By Jerome R. Corsi, Ph.D.
    © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

    Dubai Ports World is scheduled to take over operations at 22 U.S. ports, not six as previously reported by most major media.
    According to the website of P&O Ports, the port-operations subsidiary of the London-based Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co. (P&O), DPW will pick up stevedore services at 12 East Coast ports including Portland, Maine; Boston; Davisville, R.I.; New York; Newark; Philadelphia; Camden, N.J.; Wilmington, Del.; Baltimore, Md.; and Virginia locations at Newport News, Norfolk, and Portsmouth.

    Additionally, DPW will take over P&O stevedoring operations at nine ports along the Gulf of Mexico including the Texas ports of Beaumont, Port Arthur, Galveston, Houston, Freeport, and Corpus Christi, plus the Louisiana ports of Lake Charles and New Orleans.

    Previously reported have only been P&O Ports' container operations at New York, New Jersey, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Miami, and New Orleans. Stevedore services also typically involve the loading and unloading of containers on and off cargo ships, as well as moving and storing containers, though often in separate facilities from where containers are initially loaded and unloaded from the cargo ships. Thus, while DPW will be operating the container terminal operations of only the six ports initially disclosed, DPW will be managing stevedore services, handling containers at a total of 21 ports, located along the Eastern seaboard from Maine to Virginia, and across the Gulf of Mexico from Texas to Louisiana.

    Additionally, the website of P&O Ports North America lists that P&O provides container services at the Port of Miami, through a subsidiary identified as P&O Ports Florida, Inc. This brings to 22 the total number of American ports where DPW will be acquiring P&O operations. On Jan. 24, P&O Ports North America and the Tampa Port authority announced they reached an agreement to enter into a long-term contract permitting P&O to operate terminals at the Port of Tampa for general and refrigerated cargo. By acquiring P&O internationally, DPW will pick up all P&O operating agreements, including this one just concluded in Tampa.

    The website of P&O Ports North America brags that "P&O Ports North America is now the largest independent stevedore and terminal operator on the U.S. East and Gulf coasts with operations in most ports from Maine to Texas."
    In reality, DPW is a front-company 100 percent owned by the government of Dubai. The nearly $7 billion in debt financing put together by international bankers to finance the DPW acquisition of P&O was predicated on the A1 Moody's rating of the government of Dubai, plus the assurance that the "full faith and credit" of the government of Dubai would guarantee 100 percent repayment of all loans and interest payments required to debt finance this leveraged acquisition.

    As WND is reporting today, new polling information reveals only 17 percent of Americans favor the deal to turn over control of U.S. ports to a state-sponsored company in the United Arab Emirates, and shows a major blow to President Bush's perceived leadership in the war on terror.
     
  4. KenH

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    I'm glad to see that there are at least 17% of we Americans who aren't wanting to have the United States retreat from capitalism and interaction with the rest of the world.

    President Bush is right on this issue. Those opposed need to reconsider their kneejerk reaction.
     
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    When the UAE are known supporters of terrorism, I don't think it's a kneejerk reacton to be opposed to their government having control of the management of US ports. This is not a private business like the British company that managed the ports before, but the UAE government that will be managing the ports. It was just 20 years ago that our government was over in Iraq trading weapons and making deals, what will our relationship be like with the UAE in 10 or 20 years. I think this is just as bad a deal as it was to give China control of the Panama Canal.
     
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    What about America! what about Americans those in the past and the future who fought and died who had limbs blown off and eyes blinded to give this nation a platform...a freedoms platform for business and big business to operate freely without fear of upheaval...they then slap us in the face and that goes for this administration who think outsourcing is a "good thing"...yes in this case it is purely "America First" put your faith in U.A.E., China, and India and see what happens it is immoral to insult America this way and then drive by Arlington cemetery or visit the Wall (Vietnam memorial).What did these countries ever do...did they make the world safe for democracy...China is playing us..mark my words ..China has two faces but a treasonous Wal-Mart will syphon American jobs to two faced Communist Red China by strong arming their suppliers.

    It is evil to slap the face of America because it has been the common man...the G.I., the middle class, the poor who go to work each day and play by the rules and really do not covet "even more"....I do not trust this administration just following the Enron trail tells you they pro cronyism...pro sweet heart deal to line pockets of those IN THE KNOW.


    I think as this story unfolds we will find out the judas treason from our own shores is lining their pockets.

    Again I remind you what has made us free and corporations free to operate.

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    Poncho may be right the rats in the know that know we are bankrupt, they are going to get their share before they leave the ship...I curse them in Jesus name the pharisees and greedmongers they are.

    I choose to put my faith in the soldier that comes home becomes a highly productive American
    Worker rather than a bunch of bastard globalists
    who have not need or care about the sacrifice of this nation.

    Yeah! I know I am over my limt but I am hacked off at sell outs that slap America in the face.

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    ASLAN,
    Very, very inspiring post. Yes, America first. We are a people that can think for ourselves and have it within us to become quite self-sustaining. This international community, UN, we are one big happy family stuff needs to be trashed. If we need the help or desire trade with another country, we can have bilateral treaties. We have it within us to produce our own energy, whatever it takes, and the Arabic countries can peddle their oil somewhere else.

    As for the notion that we must be part of the international UN community to advance capitialism, that is nonsense. We created a strong economy on our own. Bring back the textile mills, bring back the railroads, bring back the electronics industry.

    Lets get to work and make America depend on Americans. There is so much work to be done on infrastructure and renewing our communities. This cant be done with the two parties now in power. It is time for a change.
     
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    So Ken,

    Now you think we should be engaged in the problems of the rest of the world? how very neocon of you. Too bad you are not as engaged with the problems in Israel, Iraq, and Iran. You think we should just turn to the other side of the road and leave them alone. Get real.

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    Too bad you are wanting to retreat from Iraq, Iran, and Israel. When it comes to politics, Ken, almost always, whatever side you are on is 180 degrees the opposite of what is right for America...unless, of course the Razorbacks happen to beat Tennessee...then maybe you'll change your position once again. You remind of the waffle Flip Flop Kerry. [​IMG]

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    Has anyone even asked the question, "Why does President Bush want to make this change?" It seems pretty sudden and out of the blue. Is there something wrong with the current port security system? I thought they were doing pretty good. You know we haven't had an attack within our borders since 9-11. What gives? What is he expecting to accomplish with this change?

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    Joseph,
    The more I read your posts, the more I agree. Our number one priority in foreign policy should be an unwavering support of Israel. No compromise with anyone else on this. We can do this through a treaty with them, and do not need the UN.
    We have very few real allies, Britain, Australia, maybe New Zealand, and a few of the old eastern European countries. The rest, they like us as long as it benefits them. The west European countries, China, Russia, etc, are not trustworthy. As for the Arabic countries, I wouldnt give them the time of day. That is why energy independence is so important. Then they can sell their oil to the camels. As far as Iran goes, there is only one way to deal with them.
     
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    No way. Israel is one of many allies that we, fortunately, still have. But Israel is no more important to us than Great Britain, Australia, et al.
     
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    President Bush didn't make the change. P&O sold its operations to DP World.
     
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    You are entitled to your globalist viewpoint. The bottom line is that it hurts our country and stagnates the drive and imagination of the American people. And yes, Israel is our number one friend. Or, maybe you have a better explanation as to why God has so blessed our country when we have the moral standards that we do.
     
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    Saturn,

    We should give support to any Democratic Ally. BTW, the CP foreign policy would go directly against what you suggest in Israel. They would pull all foreign aid altogether and use it to fund isolationist policy of America First and Only. Check out their platform and see that it is true. This is the major purpose that I oppose to the CP.

    We should also support Iraq as an ally and stand with them. They will be an instrumental ally in our national security if we can help them stabilize their new democracy. If we will remember our own history, we will remember that beginning our democracy was not easy work and very pretty either. As for Iran, we need to go in there and destroy their nuclear plants. I am not for nuking them and slaughtering many of the innocent victims of their own government. As in any war, there will be unfortunate accidents where innocent victims die, but that is totally different from actually targeting them and wiping them out.

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    I have supported the Sharon government's efforts to move toward a two State solution. I see no retreat there.

    I see no retreat on Iran as I believe that we and our allies need to engage Iran diplomatically. Just because I don't buy into the arguments that some appear to make that we should bomb/nuke/invade Iran on 2/25/2006 is not an indication of retreat.

    Also, I see no retreat in realizing that we have done pretty much all of the good that we can do militarily in Iraq and that we need to start pulling our troops out over the next 22 months while providing assistance to the Iraqis as needed where our war with al Qaeda may involve activity on Iraqi soil.
     
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    Baloney. When the Smoot-Hawley Tariff was instituted in 1930 we had the Great Depression. No thanks. The evidence shows that robust global trade is best for the greatest number of people worldwide.
     
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    Joseph,
    I think if we are indecisive and Iran becomes a big enough threat, Israel will act.
     
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    This country was blessed long before the modern political state of Israel was established in 1948.
     
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    Ken,
    Your posts are so inconsistant, I am not sure how to respond. You were for globalization after you were against dealing with the Middle East? It seems to me your whole frame of reference is money. No, the baloney is in your thinking. You and like thinking has lost us factories, good jobs, and a skilled workforce. What do we want, a country of paper pushers, and service jobs? It seems to me the motivation here is money, numbers, and not the welfare of the American people. Maybe if you had been part of the posting by ASLN above, you would think different.
     

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