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    There's only one problem with this video. It's full of lies.

    All the evidence points in a different direction. Westward.
     
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    Watch out for poncho! I got a monkey playing a banjo that calms him just a mite if you need it!
     
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    Poncho has posted a mountain of evidence and all you have to counter it with is a monkey playing a guitar. That's a sad commentary in and of itself. :laugh:

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=92615

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=97472

    In case you missed it because your monkey was distracting you . . .

    Even the Chief of Staff of Ukraine’s Armed Forces, General Viktor Muzhenko disagrees with you two and your little mascot.
     
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    Please send that monkey playing a banjo out to work on this thread if there are no specifics listed soon. Perhaps the British did publish things from their point of view, but I am thinking that it is a worldwide point of view, too. Facts are facts, aren't they?
     
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    Yea, yea we know and Katrina was an inside job.
     
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    Says the guy who runs away and hides when asked to prove his own unfounded allegations. :laugh:
     
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    And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Romans 12:2

    Can you get anymore conformed to this world? I think not. What do you know of facts? You who have proven to be very consistent in mistaking Washington and the corporate media's many unfounded allegations as facts. :laugh:

    You reject evidence and facts at every turn that doesn't align with your fears and biases. You peddle Washington's lies like a well trained dog and call them facts when you have nothing but the word's and accusations of known liars to support them.

    You are so conformed to this world and it's "view" that you hate and fear the truth as much as it does. And that is a fact you have openly displayed in many threads my friend.

    Keep your "world view" while I keep revealing the facts and evidence you'd rather not hear.

    Grown men having to have a monkey do their talking for them.

    That should be a sign to everyone what little evidence they have to support their beloved "world view". :laugh:

    Do I need to go through your video frame by frame and point out all the lies and misinformation in it? I can, easily.

    I've already debunked it in the two threads I've posted above with your help. Shall I do again just to embarrass you the Rev, OR and his little monkey?

    How about it CMG all your unfounded allegations vs the facts and evidence I've already posted for all to see?

    Sounds fair to me. You four (monkey included) against the facts and evidence I've already posted. I'd be interested in seeing how many times OR's monkey has to step in to do your talking for you this time.
     
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    In the journalistic world of Russian "annexations" and "aggression" in Ukraine, most of the key events of the past year that have truly caused the political crisis are made to disappear, as if by magic:

    The right-wing government that came to power in February following the overthrow of President Victor Yanukovych proposed a sharp rupture of Ukraine's existing political and economic ties with Russia in favour of association with austerity Europe and dependence on the IMF for government financing.

    The overthrow of Yanukovych was spearheaded by the cadre of the parties and paramilitary militias-in-formation of the extreme right. The extreme right paramilitaries have served as the shock troops of the war in the east because many of Ukraine's conscript soldiers have been reluctant to kill or be killed.

    The "Anti-Terrorist Operation" launched in April was Kyiv's response to the demands of the populations in the east and south of Ukraine for more political autonomy, election of provincial governors and a halt to the rush into association with Europe (including the deep cuts to social services and to price supports for essential items that the IMF has demanded from the outset).

    The people of Crimea were attached to Ukraine by a bureaucratic decision of the Soviet Union 60 years ago. Crimea became an autonomous region of Ukraine with its own regional, elected assembly. Decades later, it was the elected assembly that decided to organize the March referendum and a large majority of Crimeans voted to secede.

    The government in Kyiv, located in modern and democratic Europe, has for the past six months been shelling and bombing the towns and cities of eastern Ukraine, including, as uncovered by Human Rights Watch and the New York Times, the use of cluster weapons. The bombings are destroying life support systems such as electricity, water, home heating, sanitation and communication. Kyiv has cut banking services, delivery of medical supplies and social service payments to the people of Luhansk and Donetsk.

    Poof! All gone from the news. Such are the strident biases framing the entirety of coverage of Ukraine by mainstream media in the West. All of the above and much, much more is simply "disappeared" from the news and from political discourse.

    Continue . . . http://www.truth-out.org/speakout/item/28119-the-blame-russia-mainstream-media-chorus-over-ukraine-as-viewed-from-canada#
     

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