Under Grace or Under Law Part 4

Under Grace or Under Law Part 4
ok lets continue!


We talked on another thread about being Under the Law or Under Grace. I would like to see if we can come to some sort of an understanding on this...

1. Does anyone think they can be sinless?

2. Do we have to and can we keep the Law of God?

3. Does being Under Grace null out the Law of God?


What is YOUR interpretation of Romans Chapter 6 here?


Romans 6:
6: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7: For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8: Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9: Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10: For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11: Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12: Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13: Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14: For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15: What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16: Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
17: But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
18: Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

 

thank you.

 

Fell free to start out posting to this thread in whatever way you wish to.

 

well I think its helpful to discuss these things, I know I have learned alot from the threads so far that I hadnt ever thought of before.

 

Mike,

It was just that I was trying to beat you to starting a new thread and I figured the way to do that was to hurriedly copy and paste the same stuff from the first one I had started

I know that has got to be SOME sort of a sin, but just not sure what category it would fall under.

 

Speaking of WRATH, when John the Baptist said this:

Lk:3:7: Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

He also then told the people that their fruits would show what character of tree they were and that God would cut them down and toss them into the fire if they didnt bear proper fruit.

8: Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
9: And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

 

Quote:
1 Corinthians 3:11-15
"[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]3:12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]3:13 each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]3:14 If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]3:15 If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire. [/FONT]


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ok I stuck that up there for you, hope you dont mind