"For you see your calling brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called. But God has CHOSEN the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has CHOSEN the weak things of the world to put to shame the things that are mighty; and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has CHOSEN, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, that NO flesh should glory in His presence." (1 Cor.1:26-29) I am trying to understand this passage. Was it only fools, the weak-minded, the morally inferior, the outcasts, as it were, of the world that he FORKNEW? Or did He CHOOSE them, as the Scripture seems to indicate. If I am correct, Arminians say that God predestines those He forknew would accept Him... then how is it He is said to CHOOSE those who are fools, weak, not noble or mighty? Is it unreasonable to ask: Is it very likely that fools would chose God? ("The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God'") I use the word "fool" as opposed to "the wise", and get this definition from the almost countless references in the book of Proverbs. If "no flesh should glory in His presence", what do we mean by "glory"? To have an occasion for boasting, or pride? But shouldn't I be proud if I just happen to provide a faith that leads to regeneration...as opposed to be put to shame for lack thereof? Could I glory in THAT? I doubt it. This is why I cannot understand or accept Arminian dogma concerning faith before regeneration. "But the natural man does not recieve the things of the Spirit of God, for they are FOOLISHNESS to him, NOR CAN he know them, for they are spiritially discerned." (1 Cor.2:14) "As it is written, 'Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated." (Rom. 9:13) God could not have "hated" Esau because of His forknowledge of him, because there was NOTHING to forknow. Esau had not yet lived a life that could be hated, nor had Jacob lived a life that could be loved. Esau had yet to do something displeasing. If a man's life has not yet been lived out, in actuallity, then how can anything be forknown about it? Thought? Opinions?