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Featured Unelect Person Desiring Salvation

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by saturneptune, Sep 22, 2012.

  1. kyredneck

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    It's one of those old minor tunes that's 'arranged' in all our hymnals, my wife and I both love it. Here's the lyrics:

    Come, ye sinners, poor and needy,
    Weak and wounded, sick and sore;
    Jesus ready stands to save you,
    Full of pity, love and power.

    I will arise and go to Jesus,
    He will embrace me in His arms;
    In the arms of my dear Savior,
    O! There are ten thousand charms.

    Come, ye thirsty, come and welcome,
    God's free bounty glorify;
    True belief and true repentance,
    Ev'ry grace that brings us nigh.

    I will arise and go to Jesus,
    He will embrace me in His arms;
    In the arms of my dear Savior,
    O! There are ten thousand charms.

    Come, ye weary, heavy laden,
    Bruised and broken, full of sin;
    If you tarry till you're better,
    You may never enter in.

    I will arise and go to Jesus,
    He will embrace me in His arms;
    In the arms of my dear Savior,
    O! There are ten thousand charms.

    Let not conscience make you linger,
    Not of fitness fondly dream;
    All the fitness He requireth
    Is to feel your need of Him.

    I will arise and go to Jesus,
    He will embrace me in His arms;
    In the arms of my dear Savior,
    O! There are ten thousand charms.
     
  2. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
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    The parable is explained in the text, no need to claim there is a mystery. Soils 1, 2, 3 and 4 were unelect because election occurs through faith in the truth. So number 4 became elect when God credited his "all in" faith as righteousness and placed him spiritually in Christ. Thus he was enabled to produce fruit. Soil one suffered from total spiritual inability. Soils 2 and 3 demonstrate limited spiritual ability, but both chose to not fully embrace the gospel. Soil 2 put a superficial trust in Christ, eager to gain the advantages of salvation, but did not fully commit, i.e. no deep seated root to feed and nourish the plant, so when adversity came, the plant quickly withered. The 3 soil teaches another way to fail, to put Christ in but not seat Him on the throne and clear out all our other worldly treasures that hinder and choke the life out of our faith in Christ. Christ should not be one of our priorities, He must be our only priority.
     
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    That was the song the Church sang the day I made my confession of faith!
     
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    Why would an unsaved person desire Jesus Christ?
     
  5. David Michael Harris

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    Maybe because he got to point in life where he was at the end of his rope and Grace came to him! :) Grace came to him and he accepted. The healthy do not need a doctor. Hard to deny an offer of help like that.
     
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    Martha Bassett does a wonderful job with it in the link provided in post #73. She sings the same lyrics the Primitives do, I don't know her [religious] background though.
     
  7. David Michael Harris

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    At my baptism it was Thine be the glory... À toi la gloire O Ressuscité. Never forget that day. :)
     
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    He (or she) wouldn't. Unless, of course, God had been calling him to Himself. Then, he would seek Him--and he would find Him!

    The seeking is a response to God's initial working.

    The Archangel
     
  9. David Michael Harris

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    No one knows why God chooses some and not others, we are not privy to that info, just count your lucky stars, to be crude. He has mercy and pity on whom He wills. But remember God's ways are different from ours.

    I wait for the full answer, one thing I know is that only God is Good.
     
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    You sound like an Old Baptist. :)
     
  11. David Michael Harris

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    50 next year ?? :) Like the Baptist thing though. What you mean exactly?
     
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    You might understand 'Particular Baptist' better, being from France.
     
  13. David Michael Harris

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    Not really gone into the divisions of the church much, I speak only of my own experience of things, but will check the Particular area, I do believe we are called by name and that it is personal. You may have studied areas that I have not and I those you have not. I may even be ignorant of many things, but when provoked into an area you can be sure I will study it, but I have yet to find anything that changes my thoughts of my experience of Grace.
     
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    Regular or Primitive?
     
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    If that is to me, I have no idea, I just wanted to be baptizsed.

    Never even thought at that stage about right thought etc

    If your asking about my stance now then I would surely say...

    John Bunyan and John Wesley.

    And burn a lot of what I read and see today.
     
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    I will look into this, enlighten the high points if you will. If they are important enough.
     
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    Thank you for that response. My only point is I have seen some writings explaining why number 2 was saved, which I totally reject. This parable is why I have a problem with people who, even though they attend church in some pattern, never do anything to further the work of the Lord. Yes, Christ is our only priority.
     
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    Actually it was for that Eastern-Kentucky-redneck Primitive Baptist.
     
  19. convicted1

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    Brother Larry, I have heard that song before. It was titled "Come ye poor and needy sinners". It's on Brother Mike Slone's(old regular{lower case "o" and "r"} on here) website.....www.cumberlandbooks.com/oldregular


    Look that site up, if'n you haven't already. I really like their singing.....
     
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    When God showed me how vile I really was, how putrid my life was, how unworthy I was, I, being a sinner, began calling out to Him for salvation. God acts before we can react.
     
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