Unelected Regime Begins Killing Spree in Eastern Ukraine

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  1. poncho

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    Deadly clashes broke out as the unelected regime occupying Kiev attempted to restart what it is calling “anti-terror” operations in eastern Ukraine where anti-fascist protesters have begun rising up. Several have been killed during clashes in the eastern Ukrainian town of Slavyansk where Kiev has set armored vehicles and helicopter gunships upon its own population.

    The Western media continues to refer to those opposing the unelected regime in Kiev as “pro-Russian,” and continues to insist that the uprising in the east is either backed by Moscow or in fact, being carried out directly by Russians operating in Ukrainian territory. However, the US and EU have failed categorically to prove such claims with evidence, and have since been caught circulating falsified images and news in attempts to bolster their claims.

    The current regime in Kiev came to power at the height of the so-called “Euromaidan” protests where admittedly armed Neo-Nazi militants seized power, ransacking the headquarters of their political opponents and driving out the elected government of President Viktor Yanukovych. While the armed, violent seizure of power was initially covered up by the Western media, the BBC itself would later admit in a short video report that indeed armed Neo-Nazi militants spearheaded the coup.

    The nature of the regime in Kiev is also being papered over by the Western media, covering up the fact that the two main opposition parties that seized power, Svoboda and “Fatherland,” are in fact led by a collection of Neo-Nazis, bigots, racists, and anti-Semites. In a desperate attempt to cover up this lack of legitimacy, the West has sent many high level officials including a leading US Senator and the US Vice President to Kiev to lend both political and material support.

    The latest visit by Vice President Joseph Biden appears to have been timed specifically to help coordinate a renewed push into eastern Ukraine, after Ukrainian troops surrendered en masse last week – refusing to carry out operations against their fellow countrymen. Reports indicate that Kiev has now turned to fanatical ultra-right militant groups in an attempt to put down growing unrest against the unelected regime. The Voice of Russia reported in its article, “Ukrainian Right Sector says it will join crackdown on pro-federalization protesters,”

    Read More At: http://journal-neo.org/2014/04/25/unelected-regime-begins-killing-spree-in-eastern-ukraine/
     
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    They want to take their country back from Russia's influence. Good for them. Mexico should follow suit.
     
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    Hoorah for the neo nazis!

    Rah rah ree kick em in the knee! Rah rah rass kick em in the other knee!

    Neo nazis neo nazis go go go! Go team!

    BUSTED! Establishment Media Caught Faking News

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyEGZxCEXUo

    Moving Closer To War

    Paul Craig Roberts

    The Obama regime, wallowing in hubris and arrogance, has recklessly escalated the Ukrainian crisis into a crisis with Russia. Whether intentionally or stupidly, Washington’s propagandistic lies are driving the crisis to war. Unwilling to listen to any more of Washington’s senseless threats, Moscow no longer accepts telephone calls from Obama and US top officials.

    The crisis in Ukraine originated with Washington’s overthrow of the elected democratic government and its replacement with Washington’s hand-chosen stooges. The stooges proceeded to act in word and deed against the populations in the former Russian territories that Soviet Communist Party leaders had attached to Ukraine. The consequence of this foolish policy is agitation on the part of the Russian speaking populations to return to Russia. Crimea has already rejoined Russia, and eastern Ukraine and other parts of southern Ukraine are likely to follow.

    Instead of realizing its mistake, the Obama regime has encouraged the stooges Washington installed in Kiev to use violence against those in the Russian-speaking areas who are agitating for referendums so that they can vote their return to Russia. The Obama regime has encouraged violence despite President Putin’s clear statement that the Russian military will not occupy Ukraine unless violence is used against the protesters.

    We can safely conclude that Washington either does not listen when spoken to or Washington desires violence.

    As Washington and NATO are not positioned at this time to move significant military forces into Ukraine with which to confront the Russian military, why is the Obama regime trying to provoke action by the Russian military? A possible answer is that Washington’s plan to evict Russia from its Black Sea naval base having gone awry, Washington’s fallback plan is to sacrifice Ukraine to a Russian invasion so that Washington can demonize Russia and force a large increase in NATO military spending and deployments.

    In other words, the fallback prize is a new cold war and trillions of dollars more in profits for Washington’s military/security complex.

    Read More At: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/04/26/moving-closer-war-paul-craig-roberts/

    Neo nazis neo nazis rah rah rah! Go team!

    Marchenko Vladimir Romanovich, a member of the Ukrainian parliament, from eastern Ukraine issued the following statement:

    “I demand an immediate end to the killing of my countrymen in the Donbass region instrumented under a punitive operation led by armed Ukrainian neo-Nazis.

    I was born and raised in Slavyansk. In this city my mother and father are buried. My relatives live in Kramatorsk in Donetsk and Mariupol.

    Donbass workers diligently worked for the good of the [Ukrainian] motherland. Unlike the Galician fascists, my [Ukrainian] fellow countrymen fought the Nazis [during World War II] instead of serving them.

    Donbass workers as the entire South-East of Ukraine are at the forefront of recovery from chaos created by the junta for Ukraine [the Kiev coalition government].

    We are not separatists. We are a proud working people who will not kneel before [Nazi] Bandera, we will not betray our Russian brothers.

    We only want honest work, life with dignity without humiliation and insults, with the respect for our historical roots and our spiritual and cultural values.

    We will never accept [Neo-Nazi] “Banderization” and Euro-colonization of Ukraine!

    We will not be cannon fodder in the U.S. war against Russia!

    In accordance with the will of the people of the whole country [Ukraine] expressed in the referendum in 1991, we want to be in union with Russia and Belarus. This is the essence of our demands.

    But the [Kiev] junta is hunting us, it has proclaimed a policy of genocide

    - “Pro-Russians on knives”, “Ukraine for Ukrainians”, “Glory to the nation - death of the enemy”.

    Yes, we do not believe in Bandera’s Ukraine, Nazi henchmen and criminals.

    Yes, that’s our stance.

    It is our right to defend our legitimate interests, our lives and security from the declared genocide and oppression.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukrainian-national-resistance-against-the-neo-nazi-government/5379402
     
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    Poland’s Role in Destabilizing Ukraine: Polish Military Trained Neo-Nazi Militants for EuroMaidan Protests

    Polish media outlet Nie has published a bombshell account about direct Polish involvement in Ukraine’s destabilization. Its source alleges that the Polish Foreign Ministry had invited Ukrainian militants into the country and trained them outside of Warsaw in September 2013. Considering the destructive actions and fatalities they would later be responsible for during the EuroMaidan riots, such a connection would directly link Warsaw to the pandemonium. It would also implicate Poland in being the “Slavic Turkey” of NATO in Eastern Europe. The impact of Nie’s reporting can also affect domestic Polish politics, as it would prove that the political elite misled members of Parliament, which could later have direct political repercussions for Tusk’s ironically named “Law and Justice Party”. This scandal serves to highlight that Poland is starting to emulate the methods of its invited neo-colonial headmaster, the US, thereby deepening the puppet-master relationship between Warsaw and Washington.

    According to the report, 86 Euromaidan militants, some of whom appeared to be over 40 years old, came to Poland under the invitation of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The pretext for plausible deniability was that they were in the country to promote cooperation between the Warsaw University of Technology and the National Technical University in Kiev. In reality, however, these individuals were whisked away to Legionowo, a town on the outskirts of Warsaw. There, at the police training center, they spent four weeks engaged in a regiment of destabilization training.

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    The source goes on to state that pictures of the participants show them clothed in Nazi regalia and tattoos, with their Polish military instructors lacking any outward identification as such. At the facility, militants learned the following techniques: crowd management; target identification; tactics; leadership; behavioural management under stressful conditions; protection against police gasses; building barricades; and importantly, they engaged in shooting classes, which incidentally included sniper rifles. Quite clearly, the “students” who came to Warsaw were there for war, not academic work, and their training there resulted in the christening of Bandera’s spiritual descendants.

    These revelations underline how the EuroMaidan militants had prior Western-backed training, and that Poland was chosen as the location for their instruction. Through its direct involvement and support in training the radicals, Poland is quickly living up to its reputation as NATO’s most important frontline state. When the Polish Sejm voted in early December, 2013 to show its “full solidarity with the citizens of Ukraine, who with great determination show the world their desire to ensure their country’s full membership in the EU”, little did they know that the violent vanguard which had just days before thrown Molotov cocktails and attacked police officers likely acquired their tactics less than an hour’s drive from where they casted their vote. Most members of parliament likely did not have a clue that their government was training those violent elements and would be shocked to know that this was the case.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/polands-role-in-destabilizing-ukraine-polish-military-trained-neo-nazi-militants-for-euromaidan-protests/5378129

    Let's hear it for our team! Neo nazis! Neo nazis! Rah! Rah! Rah!
     
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    "anti-fascist protestors" is that code word for pro-Russian communists or are the Russions all "peace loving dirty capitalists" now; led by ex-KGB Colonel? Vladimir Putin of course!
     
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    Ukraine Fact Checking: Kerry Bullying, Bluster and Big Lies

    Four parties in Geneva “agreed that all sides would refrain from violence, intimidation, and taking provocative actions,” he (Kerry) said.

    “We agreed that illegal groups would lay down their arms…We agreed to implement” objectives discussed.

    “From day one,” he added, “the government of Ukraine started making good on its commitments – from day one.”

    “From day one, Prime Minister Yatsenyuk has kept his word. He immediately agreed to help vacate buildings.”

    “He suspended Ukraine’s counterterrorism initiative over Easter, choosing de-escalation, despite Ukraine’s legitimate, fundamental right to defend its own territory and its own people.”

    Fact: Kiev putschists have no legitimacy whatever. They have no legal authority. They represent mob rule.

    Fact: “From day one,” they violated agreed on Geneva terms. They did so straightaway. They deployed military forces and Right Sector thugs to Eastern Ukraine.

    They attacked nonviolent civilians. They committed cold-blooded murder.

    Fact: Yatsenyuk lied. He escalated conflict. Kiev buildings remain occupied illegally.

    Kerry: “…On day one, Yatsenyuk…committed his government to undertake constitutional reform that will strengthen the powers of regions.”

    “He directly addressed the concerns expressed by the Russians, and he did so on day one.”

    Fact: No constitutional reform exists. No steps were taken so far. No legitimate ones are planned. Putschists want unchallenged nationwide control.

    They reject local autonomy. They declared war on freedom. They’re waging it against fundamental rights. They’re murdering their own people.

    Russian nationals are threatened. They live in fear for good reason. Claiming otherwise is false.

    Kerry:

    “…Yatsenuk has publicly announced amnesty legislation -once more, in his words – for all those who surrender arms, come out of the premises and will begin with the Ukrainian people to build a sovereign and independent Ukraine.”

    “That is a promise made by the interim government to the people of Ukraine.”

    Fact: Coup-appointed fascists run Ukraine. Neo-Nazi extremists hold high government positions.

    Trust isn’t their long suit. Pledges aren’t worth the paper they’re written.

    Major ones so far were broken straightaway. Business as usual continues. Expect nothing different going forward.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-fact-checking-kerry-bullying-bluster-and-big-lies/5379304
     
  7. poncho

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    Are you saying we should side with neo nazis because you don't like Russians?

    Go team! Or as the nazis put it. Sieg Heil! (Hail victory!)
     
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  8. Jkdbuck76

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    I'm sure Putin fears Obama. Not.
     
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    I don't know whether the Ukraine government in Kiev is dictatorial or not, no real difference between Nazi, Fascist, and Communist, all are bad. Putin took the Crimea and got away with it. If he takes the Ukraine what is next. Putin is the present day Hitler or Stalin and Obama is the present day Chamberlain.
     
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    Try following this guy: https://news.vice.com/video/russian-roulette-the-invasion-of-ukraine-dispatch-thirty
    It's interesting.
    If you speak French enough to follow, J.F. Belanger also.
    And if you can throw some Ukranian and Russian in the mix, there is even more info out there that you aren't getting on CNN and FOX, which is what I see people on here link to.
    Depends how bad you want the info...it's out there, and how it's unfolding is quite...mixed up. I don't think any of us can sit here and say for sure what's going on because it's doesn't appear certain day to day, so how can others know?

    The only thing for sure is that there are people who want to profit from the instability of others, and a lot of people who haven't been paying attention really should, because history is repeating itself while people think to ignore it because they don't think this is going to affect them. It will. And sooner than they think.
     
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    Putin didn't take anything. The Crimean people voted to join Russia because they didn't want to be ruled by violent bigoted fascists.

    Putin's the new Hitler? Yeah and we know this how? Because the same people who lied to us about Iraq, Libya and Syria told us so?

    Facts don't matter if they don't play on our fears and line up with the "official story" that just happen to feed into our prejudices do they?

    Fact. Washington lies.

    Fact. The corporate media repeats the lies.

    Fact. You know they all lie and you still choose to believe them.

    Question. Why?
     
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