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versions of the bible

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Heavenbound01, Jul 28, 2004.

  1. Askjo

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    Prove me, please!
     
  2. robycop3

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    Michelle:Adding and subtracting from the words of God may be or seem "stupid" to you, but the Lord our God has said otherwise.

    Then please explain why all four gospels, when, compared to each other, add & subtract many words, are all valid.


    We do not speak Greek or Hebrew, we speak ENGLISH. God has provided HIS pure words for us in our own language.

    yes, in the various english BVs from the 600s AD through today. I praise Him every day for providing His word in my language.


    I praise and thank our Lord for this! It is very sad you deny and reject this wonderful truth.

    That's YOU who denies much of what God has done by trying to limit Him to JUST ONE VERSION of His word in English.

    ...Oh, wait!...You've said you're NOT KJVO. What other specific version(s) do you recommend?

    And where's that post you say I made a certain statement in? Or, have you prevaricated about it?

    IT AINT GONNA GO AWAY, MICHELLE!
     
  3. Askjo

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    I recommend the KJV, not MVs!
     
  4. robycop3

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    Originally posted by robycop3:
    ...Oh, wait!...You've said you're NOT KJVO. What other specific version(s) do you recommend?


    Askjo:I recommend the KJV, not MVs!


    While I recommend every valid version, including the KJV.

    But Michelle, while following following the KJVO party line, says she isn't KJVO. I wonder what other version(s) she recommends along w/the KJV?
     
  5. michelle

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    We just choose not to try to tell God that He could only give them to the English speaking world but once.
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    Who is telling God this? We accept what God has already provided, and reject those things that are
    not from him.

    Many here are trying to tell us, that God has given us all these versions. That we must accept them all as God's words and that we cannot believe that God would provide us with his pure words in our language. This is contrary to what he has revealed to us in His words, and to what the Holy Spirit of Truth has revealed to us and to what he has EVIDENCED for us. We are told by you all that we are not to judge the mv's, and that we don't have anything in our own language to judge them by as the standard. The very words of God, have been not only taught and believed of previous generations of faithful believers but who also feared the words of God. They would not even think to do what it is many of you do and say concerning the words of the Lord, to which is our life. I would not even think to do it. It is treading where the angels fear to tread.

    You are all telling us we must believe something contrary to what the Lord has said, and revealed to us in His words, and abandon God's truth that his pure words are preserved for every generation, to which will ultimately lead us to doubt, deception and disobeying God. I will not do this to please, nor compromise with any person, as I would be doing them a disservice, in not telling them the truth, and not loving them enouph to tell/show them. This would be disobeying/ignoring not only what the Lord has said about this, but what he has revealed to us in our hearts.

    Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  6. Askjo

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    Did God give MANY versions of His word in English? Let me confront you by asking you simple questions: WHICH ONE IS MOST ACCURATE TRANSLATION THAT YOU HOLD WITH YOUR HANDS? NIV? NASB? CEV? TEV? LB? JB? KJV? Are they same? I met many people and chatted with them. One of them said NIV is better than KJV. Secondly, one of them said NASB is better than KJV. Thirdly, one of them said KJV is better than NIV or NASB. Fourthly, I asked them, which version is most accurate? NIV or NASB or CEV or TEV? Fively, one of them said NIV is better than NASB, but another man agrued with him saying NASB is better than NIV. Another man said TEV is better than NIV, NASB or KJV. They pointed arugably which version is most accurate. :confused: WHICH one is most accurate Bible translation for your mother tongue?
     
  7. Ed Edwards

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    IMHO it is a bad question.

    But the answer is:
    Try the translations written in
    the century in which we live. It being
    only 2004, the 21st century started
    01 Jan 2001, there aren't many.
    Yes, I want a translation built in
    the century in which i live.

    But hey [​IMG] I like to praise God
    in 17th (1601-1700) century English:

    [​IMG] Praise Iesus, the Sonne of God! [​IMG]
     
  8. mioque

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    Michelle
    Let's see if I can give the proper interpretation of your prooftexts.
    Matthew 16
    Evil Jewish scholars (heirs to the Farisees) are involved with the translation, spoiling it.
    Galatians 5
    Once more the fact that those evil Jewish scholars (who have had a knife taken to their family jewelry) are involved with the translation, spoiling it.
    Galatians 1
    It's another gospel because Jezus and Paul didn't personally drop by to instruct the translation committee on how to do the translating?
    2 Corinthians 6
    I assume the relevant part is after the colon bit. No working together with unbelievers, once again meaning those Jewish scholars.

    Am I on the right track in deciphering your prooftexts? Any further explanation of the prooftexts currently on the table would be welcome.
     
  9. michelle

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    Am I on the right track in deciphering your prooftexts? Any further explanation of the prooftexts currently on the table would be welcome.
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    Wow, the way you describe them, seems like you hate them. Do you? I sure hope not. But I do hope that you know the Jewish people are blind, and have the spirit of anti-christ. In fact the description of anti-christ in the scriptures fits their belief perfectly. Also, we are told that they are our enemies for the gospel's sake, but beloved for the bretheren's sake (we love them, they despise Jesus Christ, and therefore despise us). Since they are an enemy of the gospel in thier disbelief, and they have the spirit of anti-christ, Do you think based upon what the scriptures say, that this would be something "blessed" by God? We also see the Roman Catholics involved in this, to where we are also told that if anyone bring any other doctrine, not to even let them into your house. That if any man, or angel, preaches any other gospel, let him be accursed. This is repeated again. The Roman Catholic Church preaches/teaches/believes a false gospel. Many today in the Protestant churches have gone back to the Roman Church, and many are also charismatic. What a mixed up bunch of &lt;Judging of salvation snipped&gt;, coming together to introduce a new Bible, and then making everyone use it. This is dangerous to a very high degree. God's blessing most certainly cannot be upon it, regardless of how much they pray about it, or how many prayers. The Lord does not hear their prayers, because they &lt;Judging of salvation snipped&gt;.

    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle

    [ July 31, 2004, 09:43 AM: Message edited by: C4K ]
     
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    "What a mixed up bunch of unbelievers, coming together to introduce a new Bible, and then making everyone use it."

    I do hope, Dear Verger, that you will not be forced to kowtow to this new Dutch heresy, a brazen attempt to let the Dutch people have a Bible in modern Dutch. It would be better that the committee simply translated the KJV into Dutch, and that would be the end of that.
     
  11. HankD

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    Those words came out of your mouth michelle, not mine.

    HankD
     
  12. HankD

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    The New King James.

    HankD
     
  13. Ed Edwards

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    Interesting metaphor.
    Words out of the mouth being a metaphor
    for typing stuff down.


    [​IMG] Praise Iesus, Sonne of God [​IMG]
     
  14. HankD

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    Indeed, sounds better than "those words came out of your fingers".

    HankD
     
  15. Ed Edwards

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    You took the words
    right off my fingertips [​IMG]
     
  16. michelle

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    Those words came out of your mouth michelle, not mine.

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    Hank, you were implying this, that is why I asked you. I was also showing you, with the scriptures how you were wrong, and that by saying what you were saying, was implying that Jesus is a liar. Now will you answer the question. Do you believe Jesus Christ was lying? How do you reconcile what Jesus has said about his words, to what you say about his words that are in contradiction to what Jesus has said? Please provide your reasons with the scriptures (KJB please).

    Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  17. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    What did Jesus say about the King James Authorised Translation of the Holy Sciptures?
     
  18. Ed Edwards

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    Michelle: "But I do hope that you know the Jewish
    people are blind, and have the spirit of anti-christ."

    Get yo' bowels straight!

    I call you out on this.
    I know the Jewish people are blind
    (My Bible, the HCSB says they are).
    I don't know they have the spirit of anti-christ.
    Please cite your scripture for this.
    Feel free to use any of the three KJV Bibles,
    some other Bible translation hundreds of years old,
    or even the original language Bible


    [​IMG] Praise Iesus, the Christ [​IMG]
     
  19. Ed Edwards

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    [sarcasm]It is necessary for salvation.

    Romans 10:9 (Authorized King James As Understood):

    If thou shalt confess Jesus as Lord and
    believe in thine heart that God has
    raised Him from the dead,
    and read from the King James Version Only;
    then thou shalt be saved.[/sarcasm]

    May God have mercy on us all :eek:

    [​IMG] Praise Iesus, the Christ [​IMG]
     
  20. HankD

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    just so you will know so that you can do whatever your conscience says, I was deeply offended by your question. And no, the thought (until today) never even entered my mind that Jesus was capable of what you said.

    I will provide the Scripture when you show me some jots and tittles from the Law as recorded in the KJV of the Bible.

    The jots and tittles exist only in the Hebrew Bible. Jesus and I both know this.

    HankD
     
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