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Discussion in 'Politics' started by 2 Timothy2:1-4, Oct 4, 2007.
Bravo, good for him.
Property damage. He has no legal right to mess with other people's property. There is no law regarding flag height.
Is this patriotic vet also protesting little paper flags put on cup cakes every July 4th and raggedy flags flown in the dark?
The Man Deserves a Medal.
Except, he didn't go far enough... he should have BURNED the mexican flag too...
[racist comments snipped]
You originally said to nuke Mexico. Guess you realized you overreached. [snipped to fit previous snipped post] . And what is with the name calling?? Very unchristlike. Didn't our Lord die for these as well? If he loves them, so do I.
Yeah, He died for them, alright. But that still don't give them a right to come into MY country, steal Jobs from other America Citizens and live here off my land, as a Illegal Aliens.
Go to this link HERE, you might learn something.
First of all, don't post links to hate sites. Secondly your own words condemn you.
So you think you have a right to kill them? You are [personal attack deleted]
You have also been reported.
Back to the topic at hand, I understand the ire of this vet, and the flag code does specify the banners of sovereign nations should fly at the same level. However, he did also trespass and destroy the property of others.
Did he inform them? Perhaps the owners of the business were just ignorant.
In any case, the flag code, from what I understand, is not a law to be enforced, but merely specifies how the flag should be displayed.
Title 4 United States Code:§ 4. Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag; Manner of Delivery.The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag: “I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the
United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”, should be rendered by standing at
attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. When not in uniform men
should remove any non-religious headdress with their right hand and hold it at the
left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should remain silent,
face the flag, and render the military salute.§ 5. Display and Use of Flag by Civilians; Codification of Rules and
Customs; Definition.The following codification of existing rules and customs pertaining to the
display and use of the flag of the United States of America is established for the use
of such civilians or civilian groups or organizations as may not be required to
conform with regulations promulgated by one or more executive departments of the
Government of the United States. The flag of the United States for the purpose of
this chapter shall be defined according to Sections 1 and 2 of Title 4 and Executive
Order 10834 issued pursuant thereto.§ 6. Time and Occasions for Display.(a) It is the universal custom to display the flag only from sunrise to sunset on
buildings and on stationary flagstaffs in the open. However, when a patriotic
effect is desired, the flag may be displayed 24 hours a day if properly
illuminated during the hours of darkness.
(b) The flag should be hoisted briskly and lowered ceremoniously.
(c) The flag should not be displayed on days when the weather is inclement, except
when an all-weather flag is displayed.
(d) The flag should be displayed on all days, especially on New Year’s Day,
January 1; Inauguration Day, January 20; Martin Luther King Jr.’s birthday, the
third Monday in January;15 Lincoln’s Birthday, February 12; Washington’s
Birthday, third Monday in February; Easter Sunday (variable); Mother’s Day,
second Sunday in May; Armed Forces Day, third Saturday in May; Memorial
Day (half-staff until noon), the last Monday in May; Flag Day, June 14;
Independence Day, July 4; Labor Day, first Monday in September; Constitution
Day, September 17; Columbus Day, second Monday in October; Navy Day,
October 27; Veterans Day, November 11; Thanksgiving Day, fourth Thursday
in November; Christmas Day, December 25; and such other days as may be
proclaimed by the President of the United States; the birthdays of States (date
of admission); and on State holidays.
(e) The flag should be displayed daily on or near the main administration building
of every public institution.
(f) The flag should be displayed in or near every polling place on election days.
(g) The flag should be displayed during school days in or near every schoolhouse.
§ 7. Position and Manner of Display.The flag, when carried in a procession with another flag or flags, should be
either on the marching right; that is, the flag’s own right, or, if there is a line of other
flags, in front of the center of that line.
(a) The flag should not be displayed on a float in a parade except from a staff, or
as provided in subsection (i) of this section.
(b) The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle or
of a railroad train or a boat. When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff
should be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.
(c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the
right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services
conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown
above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person
shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international
flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to or in place
of the flag of the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided,
That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice
heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of
superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal
prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the
headquarters of the United Nations.
(d) The flag of the United States of America, when it is displayed with another flag
against a wall from crossed staffs, should be on the right, the flag’s own right,
and its staff should be in front of the staff of the other flag.
(e) The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the
highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or
pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs.
(f) When flags of States, cities, or localities, or pennants of societies are flown on
the same halyard with the flag of the United States, the latter should always be
at the peak. When the flags are flown from adjacent staffs, the flag of the...
Thanks for posting that.
No more warnings. Keep this tone and I will not only edit the posts but delete the thread.
So you edit my pointing out he linked to a hate / racist site, but leave in his comments advocating mass murder and bodybags?
Roger, you are usually quick to handle such problems. I expect better moderation than that. Plus you said I made a personal attack. No I didn't. I said he should take his racist trash somewhere else.
Since when did the American Nationalist Union become a racist organization?
Racist? Not hardly.
Let me ask you this, EF. Are you 100% American Indian? If not, YOUR forebears were illegal aliens. By your logic, you should be shipped back to the old country in a body bag, as you advocate for others? You need to think about what you say.
Your obnoxious posts do nothing to get across the fact that I think what the vet did was correct. By the way, this is not your country. It belongs to 300,000,000 Americans.
Plus the "stealing jobs" comment belies a larger problem. It is American businesses that hire illegals.
Then there is the whole issue of whether or not people like EF would do the jobs like picking produce at the wages paid these workers. It is a multifaceted problem, not one solved by sending them back in "body bags". If Americans would pay a bit more, then American workers could make a liveable wage doing things like farming, construction, cleaning, dish washing, etc. As long as we have a Wal-Mart, cheap cheap cheap mindset, this is what we get.
As for me, I'd do a job like that as a last resort, but these are not the jobs I went to school to pursue. And I certainly couldn't have a liveable wage under the current economic situation.
Complex problem, not solved by mindless hatred and reactionary comments.
And again, did this vet try to talk to the business rather than react out of emotion? We don't know. But I imagine these folks may have just been ignorant of protocol.
We probably do not feel the same about this issue of the flag, which is fine. Our posts are civil and reasoned out. The post I was criticizing has nothing to do with which side. That was just pure hate.