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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Jordan Kurecki, Aug 25, 2014.
I agree that video games would be bad for the person that posted that. Small minded people that are unable to separate fiction from reality would suffer greatly.
Phillipians 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
Psalm 101:3 I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.
Colosians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
1Corinthians_10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
I have a few comments to make.
We are to think on things that are pure, righteous, etc.
Many video games portray worldly philosophies,etc.
I am not condemning all videos games.. but really many of them have wicked things, the bible says set NO wicked thing, that means not a single wicked thing should be purposely set before our eyes.
I know a lot of people like the shooting games, I too also did, but knowing that God does not take pleasure in the death of the wicked, and knowing the character of God, I do not believe God takes pleasure in death... Yet some Christians want to find entertainment in something that glorifies death? how can you do that to the glory of God? i know God is a god of war, But do you really think it pleased God that he has to destroy sinners for their sin and pass judgment upon them through death? Yet many think it's ok to play way games for entertainment.
again I am not against all video games, but we live in a world where video games are filled with wicked ungodly ideas and themes, Themes that are contrary to what we are to think upon according to Ph 4:8, themes like magic, sorcery, demons, etc..
I think of the popular game Pokemon, (which I use to play) it has Psychic elements in it, which is blatant occult, guess what I googled one day in my younger years? telekinesis (an occult practice of moving objects with your mind), by the grace of God I never got into the occult, but I could have very easily.
as Christians I have noticed that we so often put foolishness in front of our eyes and our children for the sake of entertainment.
Sure you may be able to distinguish reality from fiction,but young children often cannot, and a lot of times you may not realize how exactly these things can change your worldview and perspective on things, We look at the world and lost sinners, and most of them have no idea how their culture has shaped their worldviews, How many athiests have no idea that they believe in evolution simply because it's been pounded into them by public school and culture? my point is Christians today are totally naive to how Satan infiltrates their mind.
If you are putting things that do not bring God glory, and that have themes that are not pure and edifying, all for the sake of pleasure, and you think that you'll be ok because of your "superior discernment" be warned, You are deceived by Satan.
1 Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
Proverbs 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Mat 26:33-34 Peter answered and said unto him, Though all men shall be offended because of thee, yet will I never be offended.
Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.
Obadiah 3-5 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.
If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night, (how art thou cut off!) would they not have stolen till they had enough? if the grapegatherers came to thee, would they not leave some grapes?
You need to stop reading my posts, because I will advocate playing video games. By reading my posts you will purposefully place wicked things in front of your eyes.
Pokemon is a great game! Love it and have played with my kids. They have a good online version as well.
Minecraft, also a great game. Get to kill zombies, witches, and skeletons. All while mining, crafting, and exercising my imagination!
MMO games like Lord of the Rings Online are superb! It's fun the interact in a fantasy world that thousands of others are also in.
Car racing games, shooting games, strategy games, games with magic, games without magic. I use them all as an opportunity to relax and have fun.
Hope you aren't still reading or you may need to go light some candles and pray to your rosary. Want to do an exorcism?
So you play a game with witches in it, witches that perform something called witchcraft which people were stoned for in the bible, they perform a sin that Jesus Christ died a gruesome death on the cross, and you have no problem with that? is that what you are telling me?
And then you sit here and belittle me and mock me purposefully, not at all for the purpose of edification, simply to mock me because I am trying to warn you about something?
My purpose for posting was to warn you out of genuine concern, what's your motivation for the last thing you posted? Is it simply to defend your pleasure and assert your rights and to mock and ridicule me?
I also noticed that you have not provided a single scripture to support your position, nor did you even attempt to address what I said, you only results to mocking and deriding a brother in Christ.
This is definitely not a wise route to take, and I hope you do not deal with your others brothers and sisters in Christ this way.
You are correct. I (and my kids) play a game with a witch in it. The witches throw potions at you that harm you. Killing the witches is a good thing. That should be right up your alley, like Salem.
I have also watched the wizard of oz and Mary Poppins. I'm just a heathen I guess.
Oh and some bugs bunny episodes with a witch. Love the smurfs too....I think gargamel was a warlock.
Anyone who thinks Minecraft is occultic is out of touch with reality. At the absolute very least has no clue about the game. It is virtual Logos. Literally. It stimulates children's minds by allowing them the freedom to build, while planting crops for food, and herding and breeding animals for eggs, leather, meat, and wool.
The witches don't even cast spells. They throw poison at you. And they're evil. You kill them.
Lastly, the guy in the article lied. They didn't destroy their copies of Minecraft. It's a digital download.
While I don't know much about minecraft, I know that the main point of the article is truthful.
How can someone speak with authority on something they know nothing about? If he posts nonsense without researching it, how can you trust anything he says in that article?
It's for the same thing I used to mock James Dobson (Dodson? Can't remember) when he spoke out against "Pokeman". He showed he knew nothing about it, as he didn't even know what it was called.
Pokemon does indeed have areas of the occult in it, I speak from experience.
For example in pokemon the different monsters have types, such as grass,fire, water, one of them being Psychic type, which is purely occult.
The pokemon have different attacks that they do, one move is called Hypnosis, theres also one called telekinesis.
They also have Ghost types as well, in the original red and blue version there is actually a part in the game where you confront a ghost.
There is a Ghost move called hex.
I'm sure there are only parts those are just the ones I can recall after years of not playing the games.
Wow. You completely missed my point. He called it "PokemAn". How can anyone trust what someone says about something if that person doesn't even know how to pronounce it?
Same with this guy. He started off his article with utter nonsense. How can I trust a thing he says after he proved he didn't know what he was talking about? if you are having a problem with your computer, and a guy says to you "I'm pretty good with them interwebs", you're not going to listen to what he has to say about your network. Same thing applies here. He showed right off the bat that he didn't have a clue what he was talking about.
Even looking at the picture he showed shows he knows nothing. Firstly, your eyes don't glow like that. That's doctored. Secondly, all that fire is someone burning down a forest. If you accidentally start a fire in the wrong spot, you risk burning things down. And the sky isn't red like that. Ever. It's doctored.
So, he's either blatantly deceiving, and therefor should not be listened to because he's a liar, or he posted that picture in innocence; in which case he has no clue of what he's talking about and should not be listened to. Either way he just completely discredited himself.
Then he goes on to admit that he has no clue what he's talking about.
"I don't even know what it's called, but here's why it's bad."
Some things are evil. Quija boards, for instance. They are just inviting things into your house that you don't want there. (At worst, a gateway into Hell; at best, a scam playing off the idiomotor effect.) Some things have evil elements, but are not evil. Just because something has a witch in it does not mean that it endorses witchcraft. After all, the Bible has witches in it, practicing witchcraft; yet I still read it.
Now, I do believe that parents have to be careful with their kids. I personally believe that my parents erred on the side of caution. But I am no worse off as an adult because I couldn't watch the Smurfs or He-Man. And if something is questionable to a parent, they ought not allow it until and unless they have a good feeling about it.
But this guy is another story.
The real sad thing about the author is that he posted some good thoughts. Yet I think he's an idiot. Because at worst he was being deceitful, at best he's clueless.
Edited to add: While we're on the topic of people not having their facts straight - I found this to be humorous: http://biblicaltimes.blogspot.com/2008/03/satan-worshipper-gary-gygax-dies.html . This is another example of someone pushing their viewpoint without knowing anything about...well, anything. While it's not my intent to start a debate about D&D with this, I have to point out that Gary Gygax, co-creator of D&D, was actually a Christian with a Salvation testimony. And because of the Satanic scare of the 70s/80s, he actually changed all references to demons and devils in the rulebooks so as to not offend any Christians; though these references were later added again.
So, my point is, if someone wants to argue against something, even legitimately, they need to know what they're talking about. Otherwise they look like fools.
Some can find problems with almost anything. I wonder where Solitaire and Angry Birds fit on the Bad List.
I completely understand and agree.
It's really sad because I can support his main point, though he may be deceitful.
I would be interested to know how the family took turns smashing the Minecraft game - since it's an online game. I guess they smashed their computer? What a shame. My kids play it. My son learned about electrical circuits by playing it and now is interested in learning more about electricity and fixing old computer parts. Not everything is evil.
When one posts only a link, not stating a position or what you believe, is a WEAK thread. I am not wasting time reading another forum's material.
And when one posts a controversial subject on a "debate" site like this, be prepared to get hammered. It will happen; mark it down.