VP Candidate files suit against Obama

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  1. carpro

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    http://peoplespassions.org/documents/Press_Release_08_10_31.htm

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Vice presidential Candidate filing lawsuit against Obama


    Contact: Steve Marquis
    Telephone Number: 425-698-7084
    Email Address: [email protected]
    Web site address: http://peoplespassions.org
    Wiley S. Drake, Sr. [email protected]

    Vice presidential Candidate Wiley S. Drake Sr. to file in court asking to
    de-certify Barack Obama because he has refused to release proof of being a Natural Born Citizen, thereby disqualifying Obama in his bid for the Office of President.

    The recent Lawsuit in Washington State demanding their Secretary of State to vet the citizenship credentials of Barack Obama has spawned a slew of similar suits with new lawsuits filed and/or prepared in WA, FL, NC, CO, CA, OH, FL, CT, GA, TX, MI. Related lawsuits HI, US District.

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    In another unrelated action, though also aimed at forcing Obama to release proof or step down, 24 potential Electoral College electors are filing action Monday morning in court also demanding proof
     
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    So maybe Attorney Phillip Berg isn't nuts after all....
     
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    That is a lot of law suits
     
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    Hey, this time I am sure he's receiving the presidential daily briefings since he got his first one today.
     
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    What?........
     
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    In the previous thread, I had pointed out Obama was absolutely vetted by the FBI/NSA to get his clearance since he was receiving the daily briefings. LE challenged me and was correct, he was not yet receiving the PDB.

    I simply pointed out I am sure he was vetted thoroughly by the FBI/NSA since he is now receiving the briefings. Those are secret briefings so I know they verified he is qualified to receive them which means he is qualified to be president.
     
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    Obama would not get a security clearance if he had not been elected President. His ties with Ayers and a few others would disqualify him. He gets briefings simply because he was elected and nothing more.
     
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    There were 4 lawsuits questioning McCain's citizenship. I don't they were adequately resolved.
     
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    This isn't true, the NSA investigates and clears all candidates when they first throw their hat in the ring. I had a Top Secret clearance when I was in the Military and they came around and questioned my friends, family, Church, teachers etc.... I don't have a birth certificate because the state of CA has no record of my birth and it was a huge hassle for my parents to prove my citizenship.

    I know the presidents clearance is way higher than mine so I am sure he was thoroughly investigated before being exposed to one item of national security. If I'm not mistaken, Congress also has clearances.

    However, none of this matters to me. I am confident he's a citizen so let them law suit away.
     
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    The only reason this issue won't go away is because Obama is not forthcoming with documentation.
     
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    Your history is irrelevant. Please provide your source to prove your assertion. Here is mine:

    Guideline A
    Allegiance to the United States

    3. The Concern. An individual must be of unquestioned allegiance to the United States. The willingness to safeguard classified information is in doubt if there is any reason to suspect an individual's allegiance to the United States.

    4. Conditions that could raise a security concern and may be disqualifying include:

    (a) involvement in, support of, training to commit, or advocacy of any act of sabotage, espionage, treason, terrorism, or sedition against the United States of America;

    (b) association or sympathy with persons who are attempting to commit, or who are committing, any of the above acts;


    (c) association or sympathy with persons or organizations that advocate, threaten, or use force or violence, or use any other illegal or unconstitutional means, in an effort to:

    (1) overthrow or influence the government of the United States or any state or local government;

    (2) prevent Federal, state, or local government personnel from performing their official duties;

    (3) gain retribution for perceived wrongs caused by the Federal, state, or local government;

    (4) prevent others from exercising their rights under the Constitution or laws of the United States or of any state.


    http://www.rjhresearch.com/ADR/adjguidelines/adjguidframeset.htm
     
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    I don't get what you're showing me, are you saying Obama doesn't qualify for a clearance because of the above acts?
     
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    He wouldn't qualify because of his associations with those who committed those above acts.
     
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    Or maybe there is more than one crackpot in the country.
     
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    <YAWN> Attention seeking, sore loosers .... looses in politics, loosers in life. Just like to be troublemakers and try to puff themselves up.

    For better or worse in the US you can bring a lawsuit about anything, even stupid things. Bringing a lawsuit does not mean there is any merit to the case. People who bring silly lawsuits to court should be charged for the costs of the court proceedings.
     
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    Oh well, his birth certificate has been shown on line so this is a non issue. We know he was born in HI. Everyone but those on the far right that is.
     
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    You do not know! You only know that you accept what you have been told as true: But you do not know!

    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/index.html

    http://peoplespassions.org/documents/birth_certificate.htm

    After months and months of unrequited requests, the Obama campaign did finally present a document which they claimed validated his eligibility (per the Constitution of the Unted States, Article II, Section I) as a "Natural born citizen" to have his name on the ballot in contention for the office of the President of the United States of America.

    However, contrary to what the few media outlets who are giving this outrageous claim any attention at all have concurred, what the Obama campaign supplied was not, in fact, a "birth certificate". What they supplied was actually a "Certificate of Live Birth." There is a major difference between a "birth certificate" and a "Certificate of Live Birth." Aside from the level of detail differentiating the documents (hospital of record, doctor, height, weight, etc) - in the state of Hawaii, one authenticates natural born citizenship, and the other doesn't. This part is important, and again - it has nothing to do with tin foil hats. Per the State of Hawaii's Department of Health, "Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country." (For citation purposes, please feel free to visit their site: http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/index.html.)

    Why is this important? The "Certificate of Live Birth" provided by Obama, is in fact, a derivative of the "Amended certificates of birth" they site. Why is that important? Because per the second clause in the above citation, while you may earn citizenship via such a document, you do not necessarily earn "natural born" citizenship. "Natural born citizenship" is what is required to be eligible to be considered for the Presidency, per the United States Constitution.

    So where does this leave us? Well for starters, it leaves many of us....some in tin foil hats, some not....wondering why the Obama campaign did not supply the definitive, actual, long-form birth certificate. Contentions are, because one such authentic certificate does not exist.




    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_certificate

    [edit] Long forms

    Sample of a long form birth certificateLong forms, also known as certified photocopies, book copies, and photostat copies, are exact photocopies of the original birth record that was prepared by the hospital or attending physician at the time of the child's birth [6]. The long form usually includes parents' information (address of residence, race, birth place, date of birth, etc.), additional information on the child's birthplace, and information on the doctors that assisted in the birth of the child. The long form also usually includes the signature of the doctor involved and at least one of the parents [7].

    Long forms may become obsolete in years to come, as many states have begun to use Electronic Birth Registration systems [8]. The use of these systems will enable information typically seen on certified copies (long forms) to be available in computer databases that typically issue short form certificates, thus eliminating the need for "hard copy" long form certificates and having all birth information stored in computer databases only. This benefits parents in many ways; registration can be completed via computer at the hospital, meaning that parents can stop by their Vital Statistics office on the way home from the hospital to purchase the birth certificate instantly [9]. It also means that the extra cost for long form certificates will no longer be a factor.


    [edit] Short forms

    Sample of a short form birth certificate (certification of birth)Short forms, known sometimes as computer certifications, are not universally available, but are cheaper than photocopies and much more easily accessible. Limited information is taken from the original birth record (the long form) and stored in a database that can be accessed quickly when birth certificates are needed in a short amount of time. Whereas the long form is a copy of the actual birth certificate, a short form is a document that certifies the existence of such certificate, and is usually titled a "Certification of Birth" or "Certificate of Birth Registration". The short form typically includes the child's name, date of birth, sex, and place of birth, although some also include the names of the child's parents. When the certification does include the names of the parents, it can be used in lieu of a long form birth certificate in almost all circumstances [6]. Nearly all states in the U.S. issue short forms certifications, on both state and local levels [10

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    Failure to request and produce the requested documentation not only prevents closure on this issue.... but it open the question to others who may aspire to the Presidency of the United States based solely upon acquiring citizenship but not meeting the 'natural born' specifications which our founding fathers found essential to the qualifications to be POTUS as their means of protecting our future in the establishing of loyalties presumably passed on by nativity.

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    Personallly I think a POTUS who honors our country and rule of law and most importantly the Constitution of the United States of America would be faithful to discharge his duties and obligations to set this issue to rest...... or is already negligent in the discharge of the oath which he is about to take, and will take that oath with a reservation which remains open to question.
     
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    Here we go, yet again.

    I really thought this nonsense when the last lawsuit was thrown out.
     
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    This is the stupidest thread on the BB. :laugh:

    The only thing supporting Obama not being a citizen of the United States is the wishful thinking of many who post here regularly. :laugh:
     
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    Only one thing more stupid is in believing every thing you hear, and every thing you see, and placing you trust in the promises of man and ever in his government.
    --------Now that is truely stupid........ or foolish!
    :laugh: :laugh:
     

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