Wal-Mart faces boycott for 'banning' Christmas

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  1. Mexdeaf

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    Walmart is a business, not a church.
    They never claimed to be a Christian organization.
    They were asked by members of other faiths to carry products for their holidays. While I disagree with the other faiths, I do not disagree with the right of Walmart to carry items for their customers.
     
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    Yes, Wal-mart is making a PC decision, the right one.
     
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    From WalMart's response:
    I think WalMart understands Christmas better than most.
     
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    Absolutely a PC decision.

    Right?

    Other holidays are allowed to be called their rightful name , but Christmas is not.

    Why?

    It's obvious to me...Christmas has the name of Christ in it. The name of Christ, in reality, is what is being banned.

    I believe it's a stupid over-reactive PC decision, but it's been going on in a lot of places without fanfare for a long time.

    Most cities that put up decorations stopped using the name of Christmas long ago. It just took me a while to notice. No publicity. They just did it.
     
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    Boycott Wal-Mart are Christmas?

    That'll be the day.

    7967 Christmas items at Wal-Mart

    CLICK HERE

    Doesn't look like a ban to me.

    Typical WND reporting
     
  7. Gold Dragon

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    There is nothing that disallows the name Christmas to be used. The phrase Happy Holidays recognizes that many other holiday celebration besides Christmas occur during this time, a wise business decision so as not to exclude those celebrating other holidays besides Christmas.

    For Easter, it may be wise to chose more inclusive language that includes Passover as well, although Easter is not really a "season" in North America. I wonder how places where Lent is a national event lasting 40 days handles the fact that Passover also falls in a similar time period.

    As for All Hallows Eve, I don't believe Samhain celebrations are all too common so the Christian name of Halloween is still used.

    Aside from those three, are there any other Christian holidays or holy days of significance?
     
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    There is nothing that disallows the name Christmas to be used.
    </font>[/QUOTE]Then why can't you find it anywhere in the store and inquirers are redirected to a "holiday" sight on the internet?

    There will be no great push to be PC concerning Easter. It doesn't contain the name of Christ.
     
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    Thanks C4K I was begining to wonder if I missed my chance to purchase all my loved ones a Christmas gift made by Chinese slave labor this year. [​IMG]
     
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    How is "Happy Holidays calling any holiday by its rightful name? Chanukah is not "Holiday" any more than Kwanzaa or Christmas. When was the last time you saw Dewali decorations? Or Eid candy?

    That is really sad considering how Christ so loved commercialism. [​IMG] Was His favorite part of His birthday where He got to put the star on His fir tree or was it how festively the disciples wrapped His birthday presents...no, it was probably the mistletoe and holly on His mantle. :rolleyes:

    What have Christmas decorations, apart from creches, got to do with Christ?

    You didn't follow C4K's link, did you? Or you would know that that simply isn't true.

    Christmas is largely pagan as it is celebrated in America. Christmas trees, inflatible Frosty, Santa and the reindeer - is any of that remotely Biblical?

    Why would you expect to find religion in a discount retail store anyway? Walmart celebrates Capitalism, not Christianity.

    Easter, except for the bunny & chocolate eggs, celebrates the rebirth of Christ. It is the rebirth rather than the birth that is significant, imo.
     
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    There's nothing wrong with what Walmart has done. The OP article is inaccurate (it's WND, what do you expect??).

    Rather than have a zillion decorations for Thanksgiving, Christmas, Kwanzaa, Chanukkah, New Year's, etc, they have some signs that simply say "Happy Holidays" that go up before Thanksgiving, and stay up until after New Year's Day. It's good economic business. It's not "banning" any holiday.

    Besides, this is Walmart, not Macy's. They typically don't decorate their stores seasonally like the higher end stores do.

    Anyone who has a problem with this has way too mucht time on their hands.
     
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    Daisy, I have taken a lot of heat for my views on Pagan holidays disguised as Christian. It is really cool to see you in the same camp. Probably a first, for us.

    People shouldn't woory, Wal-Mart will facilitate those who feel the need to recognize the death of the Goddess as the birth of our savior.

    I do not celebrate Christmas, haven't in years. I suppose there is nothing wrong with families getting together and exchange gifts. But to me, it ain't a religious thing.
     
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    I thought we agreed on something else once....was it that dogs make good animal companions? Chocolate is tastey? I know there was something....

    Goddess? Which Goddess? I thought it was the soltice and Saturnalia, but perhaps I'm not as up on my Paganism as I should be.

    I celebrate, but not as a religious thing. I like the lights, decorations, music, presents given and received, being with family (I miss my Dad). It makes the cold, long nights easier to take.

    We definitely need something more festive than Valentine's Day in February.
     
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    Pagan or not,holiday or not, rationalization or not. Santaday would be OK. Solstice Day would be OK. Kwanza is OK. Hannukah is OK. Saint Nick Day would be iffy (saint may not be PC to some).

    The only reason the word Christmas is being removed systematically from most public places in connection with this holiday is because it has the name of Christ in it.

    People can employ any means necessary to themselves make it seem like the proper thing to do.

    It really doesn't alter what the real reason is.
     
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    But it isn't being removed.
     
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    Which rightful name is that? Saturnalia? Yule? Solstice? Many pre-Christian holidays occurred at this time of year. As a matter of fact, many places in the US originally outlawed the celebration of Christmas. And isn't "Christ's Mass" Catholic? Best research shows Jesus was not born during December at all.
     
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    For once you and I are in perfect agreement. Bravo on your stand sir!
     
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    I apologize.

    I didn't realize there were so many Christians who did not celebrate the birth of Christ at ******mastime. True, it is likely not the very day He was born and maybe not even the season, but does that really matter?

    Regardless of all the rest of the hoopla surrounding this holiday, Christians I would think, would be able to focus on what really mattered and pass that on to their children.

    I guess I was wrong.
     
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    Maybe its just me....but Wal-Mart employees who say, "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" bother me a lot less than churches who have Santa Claus at their church Christmas party.
     
  20. Filmproducer

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    Who said they didn't celebrate Christ's birth? It seems you are reading way too much into things. It is possible to celebrate Christ's birth without a tree, gifts, and capitalism.
     

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