Walmart Sales Down

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  1. Jarthur001

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061030/ts_alt_afp/stocksus_061030145834

    I hardly ever see a boycott work, so when people started asking me to boycott Walmart, I didn't think much would come of it. I guess most of you have heard that Walmart gave a lot of money to gay pride groups and hired a outspoken gay ad company. I have stayed away from Walmart and really it was not that hard. Hardly no one in my church shops there any more. Food stores sales in my area are up 8%-10% while Walmart dips. Its hard to say if the known boycott is working or not. If people hold to it doing Christmas, we should see major dips in sales. My guess, is that people will break from it, in order to save a few dollars.

    I started this post to have input from other areas of the nation. Do you now boycott Walmart? Is this just a waste of time by a few people? What are others doing in your church? Do you think people will stick to it though Christmas if in fact they are doing it now?

    I have talked to a few people that say this has become bigger then most boycotts. Will it work? Last year churches stopped shopping at Target when Target said it would not say "marry Christmas" to its shoppers and it change somethings as Target pulled back from this. Do you think the church can give up the savings found at Walmart, doing the biggest shopping days of the year..for this cause?


    Thanks for your input


    In Christ...James
     
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    If you read the story, you'll see that sales aren't down, they just are growing as quickly as they used to. That probably has more to do with market saturation than your boycott.
     
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    Yes...could be.

    "Sales are down", means they did not meet projected forecast. People invest based on these numbers. ".5%" is very weak for Walmart and below what they thought would happen, so people will watch this over the next few months to see if its a trend. Even if it was because of a boycott, it is easy to cover for a few months. It will take at least a year to see if it is anything. I'm not baseing any claim on one report. I just wanted to see if other areas were boycotting
     
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    Other areas are boycotting and some are more organized than others. There are city by city boycott groups on meetup.com. Also, there have been many that have resisted against Wal-mart even before they started to cozy up to sodomites and were even successful in keeping Wal-Mart out of their towns. My family was taking steps to reduce our expenditures at our local Wal-Mart prior to this new issue and we are now done doing business with them. Check out the following documentary for some of the other things that Wal-mart is alleged to be guilty of:

    Wal Mart-High Costs of Low Prices
     
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    ==I can't stay away from Walmart. Other than a Food Lion and a CVS, Walmart is all my town has. And it is not even a super Walmart. Just a little, often over crowded, Walmart about the size of the old Kmart and Roses stores.

    You can stop going to Walmart but, thanks to towns like mine and the many people who will keep shoppoing there, I doubt your boycott will really do much. Business numbers go up and down. I would not think the boycott is working simply because they have a slow period. I can tell you that companies, of all sorts, have slow periods.

    Also I don't get into all of these boycotts. In general I oppose boycotts and protests of all sorts. If you are going to boycott every company that gives money to causes you find offensive then you will have to start making your own cloths, growing your own food, and creating your own medicine. Let's face it: Gays spend money just like Christians do. Walmart wants one thing, our money. They don't care what demographic you are, they want your money. After all that is why most businesses exist...to make money. Walmart is trying to appeal to everyone and, in doing that, will offend some.

    I am reminded of the years the SBC boycotted Disney. I was riding in a car with my pastor and a friend. He was talking about how he had removed the Disney channel from his tv and how he no longer rented Disney movies. I found two problems with his actions though. (1) He was not aware that Disney owned ABC (or vias versa), nor was he aware that many of the other stations he watched were connected to Disney. (2) When you rent a movie from a video store, Disney has already made its money. Most video stores will buy a certain number of copies and then they sale the extra copies when traffic on that copy goes down. So when you refuse to rent a Disney video you are not hurting Disney, you are hurting the persons/company that own that video store. I know this because my natural father (and some of his friends) once owned a chain of large video stores. I worked in the stores through high school and managed a few while in college. They sold the chain due to a split in the partnership. Those stores are either now closed, owned by Blockbuster, or Movie Gallery. So things like Walmart/Disney are not so easily boycotted.
     
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    I'll tell you whats going on with Wal Mart. They are not doing layaway anymore. Severaly cuts down how much I will purchase from them. I usually put almost all our christmas on layaway, our clothes, household items I need, right now I am bad need of a new set of pots and pans. but without layaway. And I am only one among many not spending much at WalMart this year becasue of it.
     
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    I prefer SuperTarget to Wal-Mart anyway.
     
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    Wal-mart is not the disease. It is the symptom of the disease.
    Wal-mart is successful because Americans are just as greedy as "they" are. "They" being the Walton family and the corp. exec.s. BTW;; "they" are Americans.

    People do not HAVE to work for or buy from Wal-mart, they CHOOSE to do so. If the millions of people would not buy from Wal-mart, guess what? Wal-mart may go away, BUT!!! there will be another spring up to replace it.

    Not long ago K-mart was the bad guy, cheap chinese products and low prices and low wages. K-mart is dying (nearly dead) and Wal-mart is big.

    That is the way of business. I remember a very large Pizza chain in our town. They were very popular. Had about a dozen stores. They just closed the last one. Why do you suppose that is? Because someone came along and offered something for less. Americans are greedy. If they can get it cheaper, they will. Hence, Sam Walton. And others like him. Sears perfected it long ago. Many stores, inexpensive stuff people want.
     
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    ==Ok, let's test that theory. If I don't shop at Walmart where do I shop? That is all there is in this town. A regular, not super, Walmart, a Food Lion, and a CVS. Do I get in the car and drive over an hour to get to a Target everytime I need to grab something from the store? I think not.

    Point? I some places shoppers have a choice in others they don't. We have one major grocery store, one general store (Walmart), and one major drug store (CVS). Our choices are limited. My town is not the only one in America in this situation. I know of a few others. So your theory fails. Some people do have to shop Walmart.
     
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    I shop at Wal-Mart every week and I will continue to do so.
     
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    I agree with Donna... I think the layaway extinction will do more harm to walmart than the boycott... but the their prescription plan will offset the harm done by getting rid of the layaway...

    I have cut down on the things I but at Walmart...don't know what effect it has, but it would have to have some...

    If only someone would come up with a Christian Co-op
     
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    I do not shop at Wal Mart becasue of greed, I shop there becasue I would not be able to buy things we need other wise. Our only other choice here is K Mart, and Target is too high for us even if we had one. Not to mention products that can not be bought elsewhere here locally, unless I want to travel 45 miles. It's not greed, it's necessity.
     
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    Wow, I shop at a Really Big Wal-Mart and its Very nice for disabled people like I am.. ;)

    I do a lot of Shopping at Amazon.com though!! :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Donna and Martin:
    Ok, let's test your excuses.

    I lived in NE Montana for four long years. The town we were in was about 3000 people, max.

    The NEAREST Wal-mart or Home Depot was three to four hours drive away. All we had in town was a Pamida, Alberston's and an IGA.

    We had two hardware stores who both overhcarged. We know this because 50 miles away the same stores prices were less expensive.

    The prices of food at the two groceries were so high that a can of soup was 2.50$. And the "fresh" vegetables were always either brown, bruised or moldy. It was like shopping in communist Russia.

    So we drove to where we knew we could get quality food for reasonable prices. We did it once a month. Close to the end of the month if we ran out of something we did without. We made a list during the month of things like paper goods we would be needing, cleaning products, etc. And we bought for the entire month. We were NOT wealthy and live check to check like many Americans do. Very little savings. But we were good planners.

    So you see. Your theories fail, because I have been there and done that.

    The question is this. What are your priorities? Convenience? It sure sounds like it.
     
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    James

    Thanks for the post . . . and maybe another boycott (remember the changes at disney) will work.

    Wayne


     
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    This Just In.....

    My wife just past this on to me. I could not back it up with a news story, so this is for what ever its worth.


    November 9, 2006
     
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    Such evil has no place among those called children of God. IMHO.
     
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    Me too Ken.
    I see that WalMart is bringing back "Christmas" instead of "Holiday", probably in an effort to offend the fewest possible people. Their numbers have been down lately.
     
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    I have been trying to buy what I can at our local Dollar General store. I also live a distance from any large stores but we are soooo proud just to have our little Dollar General store, we just wonder how long it will be till they go out because of Wal-Mart.
     
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    I read yesterday that Wal Mrat had lowered electronic prices last week, and yesterday they lowered small appliance prices.
    With gas as high as it's been I haven't been buying anything, even a few needed and necessary items I haven't bought. I know there are otherss doing the samething.
    A lot of stuff at our dollar general is high then wal mart.
     
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