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Discussion in 'News / Current Events' started by Aaron, Jan 19, 2009.
Homosexuals should not be excluded from government functions merely because they are homosexuals.
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Yes, they should, but that's beside the point.
Just one of the things that keeps us from being a christian country. Overlooking sin.
On what basis?
This has never been a Christian nation. This never will be a Christian nation.
You're about to find out how un-Christian it can get, comrade.
Since this country was founded on Christian principles (which has been tainted by liberals as liberals always move things in a secular direction Christian or otherwise) this is contrary to this founding principles of this nation.
OK, I am as about as conservative as can be.. but I realize that one's sexual orientation doesn't erase one's right as a citizen in this country..
I am against giving them "special" rights... but they already have rights afforded them by the constitution simply because they are legal citizens.
They should not be excluded because they are citizens. It is that simple...
Do I disagree with their agenda... ABSOLUTELY.. but they are God's creation.. they have a soul, and need saved. Shunning them will never reach them for Christ.
Some here act as if we need leper colonies...
What would you do if a homosexual walked into your church?
I would welcome them. Preach to them, and encourage them to turn to Jesus to help them out of the bondage they are in.
I like to think Jesus would do the same...
Unless you want to rewrite John 3:16... "For God so loved the world.. except.... _______________" And if you start naming categories... you had better watch out.. because chances are, someone will name a category that fits you.
That is the danger of excluding people... God came for all.
Not just those you like.
Well said, tt, well said, brother. :applause:
:applause: Tim, I applaud you sir!
NOW I am worried.. Ken and MP agree with me....
I thought tomorrow was a day of firsts... I guess it started early.
Where is JustChristian? I could really be worried...
Old ObiWan never told you about the power of the dark side. Join me and I will complete your training. We shall rule the galaxy as father and son!
I have been accused of including abortion into every thread...
Well this one is no differen.. .lol
I would welcome a mother that had an abortion to church also...
She needs to know Christ's forgivenes.
OK... NOW I AM SCARRING MYSELF...
(** Tiny may have had too much MSG this evening, and is not thinking straight**) http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=1353864#post1353864
For me the issue is not Mr. Obama inviting the apostate Episcopal bishop to the ceremony. By that I am not surprised. Mr. Obama's choice of Mr. Warren caused a big backlash among a good chunk of Mr. Obama's supporters. The choice of Bishop Robinson was a high profile attempt to deflect the backlash. So I understand why Mr. Obama chose to include the Bishop. Also Mr. Obama has made it very clear that he supports the demonic idea that homosexuality is "normal". Thus it does not surprise me that Mr. Obama was willing to include someone like the Bishop.
The issue for me, in this story, is Mr. Warren's constant praise for Mr. Obama's actions even when those actions are unChristian and unBiblical (same thing).
Mr. Warren said:
"President-elect Obama has again demonstrated his genuine commitment to bringing all Americans of goodwill together in search of common ground. I applaud his desire to be the president of every citizen."
In some ways Mr. Warren is correct. Mr. Obama is demonstrating his commitment to bring all sorts of Americans together. However I don't believe I, as a Bible believing follower of Christ, can have any real common ground with someone like Robinson. He believes that he can redefine sin, live in sin, glory in sin, and protect his sin. I believe that all sin is lawlessness (1Jn 3:4) that offends a Holy God. I believe sin causes temporal and eternal death (Ez 18:4,20, Rev 20:14, 21:8) and seperates people from God (Is 59:2). Mr. Robinson is a false teacher who spreads lies and death (2Pet 2, Jude, etc). The result of his unrepentant sin and public endorsement of sin will decieve many (2Pet 2:2) and send many to hell (2Pet 2:20-22). I cannot have any common ground with such a heretic. And assuming Mr. Warren is a true Christian neither can he. Therefore I find Mr. Warren's call for common ground to be baseless.
Now, should homosexuals be excluded from government? As long as we allow drunks, fornicators, adulterers, liars, and cheats to be in government I see no reason to block homosexuals.
1. We are not a Christian nation when most American's aren't Christians.
2. He didn't say allow them to speak at Church, he said speak at a government function. They are part of the nation and he is their president also.
When one looks at the signers of the constitution and declaration of independence you will see they were not all Christians. When you look at the rolls of all the American's who gave their lives in the revolutionary war as well as all other wars you will see they were not all Christians. How does Christians take exclusive ownership of the nation when non-Christians contributed to its existence?
I think your view is why we left the mother land and not what this nation is about.
Yeah, let's just conveniently forget that we are all human beings created in God's image, that we are all in need of His grace. Furthermore, let's just conveniently forget that this homosexual man is a citizen of the United States of America just like you and I are.