Warrenites arise! Time to defend your leader again.

There is the problem, RW is not our leader.
And I am not anti RW, I don't have a problem with him. But he isn't my leader, and shouldn't be anyone elses.

 

I really tire of the ceaseless criticism of effective ministries for the Kingdom around here.

Seriously, if any of you do half as much good for the Gospel as Pastor Rick has done in a week you might begin to have the credibility to ask serious questions of his methods and model. Otherwise, we should all get off the computer and get to winning people for the Kingdom of God.

Just plain sad man.

 

R.W. compromises on the Gospel . He has a history of doing that . He's within spitting range of Joel O. as far as heterodoxy goes . No matter where he is as a minister of the Word of God he should not mince his words . Rick Warren does not advance the true Kingdom of God IMO .

 

No business putting him in the same sentence as Osteen. Not even close!

Ironic all of the "Calvinites" don't like RW. The five purposes he outlines for mankind don't really square too well with the eventual reprobate.

 

Amen :thumbs:

 

...if you hold to determinism I guess. I don't.

 

Not only Calvinists agree with me regarding R.W. I believe there are a number of non-Calvinistic Fundamentalists who share my view on this matter also . Anyway , join the mainstream of evangelicals who think R.W. is swell .

 

There are calvinist and non calvinist KJVO's too. What's your point?

Rick Warren is only a man, and not infallible. He is a man of God, though, unlike Osteen.

 

Well I find these types of discussions pointless as very few minds are changed and usually it only results in hateful words being spread by one side or the other and generally from both directions.

Personally I don't care much for Rick Warren's teachings and he has even admitted that there is not much "real" discipleship going on in his ministry in the masses.

With that being said for whatever it is worth to anyone I really didn't have a problem with what was said in the blog. I didn't watch the video, but encouraging folks to do good to one another is not an all bad thing I don't think.

Not all people are going to accept the death an shed blood of God's Lamb on their behalf, but that doesn't mean we should enourage them to rape, kill, steal, etc.

However I would have to agree that anything that is not done by the Holy Spirit, while it may seem "good" to the eyes of human, it is just a filthy rag.

 

http://bloodtippedears.blogspot.com/2008/01/todd-friel-rick-warrens-christmas.html

Read that. Todd Friel from WOTM radio goes through Warren's Gospel presentation on the Fox News Network on Christmas. For someone to call him a man of God, is well.. frightening. I don't doubt his sincerity, but he is misleading a lot of people by preaching an altered Gospel, a Gospel of 'life enhancement.' At least that is what he did on his Christmas series. Take a listen to the analysis by Todd Friel, it's not too long.

 

AMEN and AMEN!

See the following article:
http://lineuponlinedmm.blogspot.com/

 

After listening to that, all I heard was somenone with an agenda taking parts of RW's sermon out of context to create strawmen. Hardly something worth listening to.

To qustion RW being a man of God is...well...frightening.

I understand he is not everyone's cup of tea...particularly those who have been believers for a while, as he is more milk based, but to see the constant attacks on him and his church is sickening.

 

Opinion noted. But you're not God... and I really think He's the final authority on what advances His Kingdom or not.

Neither am I a Rick Warren follower. But in the context of reaching out to those with AIDS and those who are poverty-stricken, can we not "give them a cup of cold water" in Christ's name, and then share the Gospel? Why must it be a 15 pound KJ Bible beating them on the forehead, all the while saying, "I don't care about your AIDS... you need Jesus."

Rippon, I'm not saying you feel this way necessarily.