Was Adam....

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  1. Frogman

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    We know Adam and Eve were created naked and were not ashamed.

    We know Eve was deceived and took of the fruit before Adam, does this mean her eyes were opened when she gave to Adam the fruit that she realized the nakedness, would she have felt shame?

    We know also that Adam attempted to cover himself and his wife by sewing together fig leaves, yet when God visited Adam said he was afraid because he was naked.

    Does this not prove the uselessness of providing a covering from the will of man as to the effectiveness of covering (atoning) the physical and even the spiritual nakedness of man.

    If Adam's fig leaves had been sufficient, then why would he tell God he was afraid because he was naked. He no longer was 'physically' naked was he, so wouldn't this nakedness extend to his very spirit?

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    I believe this early record in scripture conclusively teaches the total depravity of man.

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    I agree Brother Dallas... But the fig leaves couldn't cover his natural nakedness either... So God covered them both in animal skins... The first sacrifice made by God alone... A type and shadow of the sacrifice that covered our spiritual nakedness also... Genesis 3:15... Brother Glen The Primitive Baptist [​IMG]
     
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    Yes, brother Glen, I view the fig leaves as typical of the inability of man's choice to 'cover' as well, note that these fig leaves are necessarily replaced at some point as they 'seem to be alive' yet they are dead and are/will be subject to rottening, thus in constant need of renewal. Note also the "sewing" this constitutes a seam, whereas the garment of righteousness provided by the Grace of God is seamless, typically, at least to me shown in his own garment which the soldiers cast lots over. While all this is physical objects I believe they point to the major distinctions in the salvation from Above and that man attempts to provide as a cloak.

    God Bless.
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    Guess only Bro. Glen can understand hillbilly hermeneutics??? [​IMG]

    Sorry if this is too plain for all you free-willing Arminians... [​IMG]


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    Brother Dallas... I just a plain Old Primitive Baptist... I didn't even know there was a such thing as hermeneutics until I got on this board... And I've been in my church for thirty five years... I forgot what they told me it was again... I guess it's not important... Hillbilly Hermeneutics... I guess if I'm a hermeneutist I might as well be the hillbilly kind... Brother Glen The Primitive Baptist :D
     
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    oddly enough, here is where I have heard a great deal about it...I have read it in some of Spurgeon's writings ( Lectures ) to his students; but never thought it wholly necessary to investigate in too great detail, after all we do have the Teacher of Truth with us;

    Sometimes I believe big words only complicate an already complicated life.

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