Was McCain wrong in voting against ML King holiday

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Salty, Apr 5, 2008.

  1. Salty

    Salty
    Expand Collapse
    20,000 Posts Club
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    22,114
    Likes Received:
    220
    McCains vote on the King Holiday Was McCain wrong for voting agianst the holiday.
    Was he wrong for saying his vote was a mistake?
     
  2. dragonfly

    dragonfly
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2008
    Messages:
    1,594
    Likes Received:
    0
    McCain seems to have quite a record of questionable decisions and even a good old flip-flop on at least one issue. Republicans should be proud.
     
  3. Salty

    Salty
    Expand Collapse
    20,000 Posts Club
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    22,114
    Likes Received:
    220
    Good point, wonder why the media and liberals have not said this was a flip-flop issue!
     
  4. Martin

    Martin
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2005
    Messages:
    5,228
    Likes Received:
    0
    ==No. I don't mind the holiday, I always enjoy a day off, but I don't see where supporting it or not supporting it is a big deal. I say the same thing about all other holidays. If a person does not believe it should be a federal holiday they are free to believe that. It does not mean they are a racist or anything like that.


    ==If he does not truly believe that, yes. If he does truly believe that, no.
     
  5. saturneptune

    saturneptune
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2006
    Messages:
    13,977
    Likes Received:
    0
    The holiday is great. Double time every time I work it.
     
  6. Salty

    Salty
    Expand Collapse
    20,000 Posts Club
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    22,114
    Likes Received:
    220
    Note: Bold above is my emphasis

    Maritn, Excellent point.
     
  7. Bro. Curtis

    Bro. Curtis
    Expand Collapse
    <img src =/curtis.gif>

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2001
    Messages:
    20,248
    Likes Received:
    3
    Was Robert "Sheets" Byrd (Democrat-W.V.) wrong for filibustering the civil rights bill for a full 13 hours on the Senate floor ? Of course he was. Are we ever going to hold him & the other good ole southern democrats that joined him accountable ?

    Answer pending......
     
  8. Salty

    Salty
    Expand Collapse
    20,000 Posts Club
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    22,114
    Likes Received:
    220
    Or was "Sheets" just the voice of the opposition?

    THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEBATE
     
  9. hillclimber1

    hillclimber1
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2006
    Messages:
    2,447
    Likes Received:
    0
    No, he was not wrong with his vote. It was his position at the time...
    I happen to agree with his vote. Why perpetuate racism? And why pick a man of such character to elevate? Because of one terrific speech?
     
  10. Bro. Curtis

    Bro. Curtis
    Expand Collapse
    <img src =/curtis.gif>

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2001
    Messages:
    20,248
    Likes Received:
    3
    Well, I agree about the character issue. I guess I'm not against the holiday, for his march, his lack of fear, he stood up to some nasty folks. Blacks got the right to vote & discrimination was made a federal crime in '64, but it wasn't being enforced. I have some pretty flawed heros, or people who've influenced me in some ways.

    Hillclimber, thanx for the kind words, a few days back.

    SCB, I don't think that page lets Byrd off the hook, do you ?
     
  11. KenH

    KenH
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2002
    Messages:
    32,485
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yes, Senator McCain was wrong to vote against a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr. Considering the horrific treatment of African-Americans for almost the entire history of this nation(including during the time when we were colonies of Great Britain) this holiday was the least that we could do as a nation to make amends in a symbolic way in addition to the substantive actions of having amended the U.S. constitution and eliminating Jim Crow laws.
     
  12. Tom Bryant

    Tom Bryant
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2006
    Messages:
    4,439
    Likes Received:
    0
    While I don't think voting for Dr. King's birthday to in any way make amends for how blacks were treated, I think he was wrong in voting against it.
     
  13. carpro

    carpro
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2004
    Messages:
    20,900
    Likes Received:
    295
    He was right to vote against it.

    His admission that it was a mistake is politically expedient.
     
  14. dragonfly

    dragonfly
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2008
    Messages:
    1,594
    Likes Received:
    0
    Actually you probably only get straight time for working the holiday because you get one day's pay whether or not you work. That means you are working for straight time, unless you get triple time.

    BTW, can I borrow a few bucks? :laugh:
     
  15. dragonfly

    dragonfly
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2008
    Messages:
    1,594
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yes, Byrd was wrong, more wrong that McCain.

    I think McCain should have voted for the holiday, but I don't think he is a racist. At leas I haven't seen anything to convince me thus far.
     
  16. Mike McK

    Mike McK
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2001
    Messages:
    6,630
    Likes Received:
    0
    The King holiday is a joke, anyway. He is essentially meaningless to all but a relatively small segment of the population.

    Blacks claim that he was this great moral leader, but then they turn around and say that anyone who suggests that they put his ideas into practice today is a racist.

    Your average black today wants precisely the opposite of what King said: where King wanted them to be judged on the content of their character and not by the color of their skin, today, they demand to be judged by the color of their skin and believe that the world owes them everything because of it.

    I don't believe King would approve of that.
     
  17. webdog

    webdog
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2005
    Messages:
    24,691
    Likes Received:
    0
    Good points. He was anti segregation...today it seems segregation is the desired outcome, along with an admission of guilt and demanded apologies by white people who had nothing to do with it.
     
  18. KenH

    KenH
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2002
    Messages:
    32,485
    Likes Received:
    0
    Better be careful, Mike. Remember the grief that Senator Obama caught from his political opponents when he used the phrase "typical white person"? :)
     
  19. Bro. Curtis

    Bro. Curtis
    Expand Collapse
    <img src =/curtis.gif>

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2001
    Messages:
    20,248
    Likes Received:
    3
    I often try and imagine what King would think of abortion, too.
     
  20. Bro. Curtis

    Bro. Curtis
    Expand Collapse
    <img src =/curtis.gif>

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2001
    Messages:
    20,248
    Likes Received:
    3
    Yeah, I remember him saying nothing about it, and a bunch of us getting called racists, right here. Who caught the grief, exactly ?
     

Share This Page

Loading...