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Was MLK a born again Christian

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Revmitchell, Jan 21, 2009.

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  1. Andy T.

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    What about the bodily resurrection?
     
  2. Aaron

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    I am thankful for my place in history.

    The Pharisees boasted that had they been alive at the time of the Prophets, they would not have been partakers with their fathers who killed them.

    Of course we know that's not true. They would have cast the first stones. And so would I . . . if I were a Jew in 1st Century Palestine there is no doubt in my mind I would have shouted "Crucify Him!" with the crowd.

    But God placed me 2000 years later in a home where the Bible was revered and Christ was honored. (I won't say it was a Christian home. It was RLDS.) And so I started out accepting the biblical record as authoritative and was predisposed to allowing it to shape my views.

    And again with race relations here. I have no doubt in my mind that I would have supported slavery and regarded Africans as less than human, had God placed me in the South prior to 1860. But I was brought up believing otherwise, and am grateful for that.

    However, let's not fool ourselves. MLK was not a Christian and the real goal of the Civil Rights Movement was Socialism. At the very least, if we're to give the Movement the benefit of the doubt, it was exploited for the cause of Socialism. (As soon as you tell a private individual or group who they must hire, and what they may and may not consider as criteria, and what they must pay as a wage, you have assaulted liberty.)

    I can't believe that righteous blacks can truly consider the election of Bo as a milestone in anything but the agenda of Sodom. Had a righteous black man been elected, I could rejoice not only in the fact that a righteous man took the reigns of this nation, but that it would indeed be a jewel in the crown of African Americans.

    As I see it, Bo is just a slap in their collective face.
     
  3. Aaron

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    Now a real milestone was the appointments of Clarence Thomas and Condoleeza Rice. :thumbs:
     
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    This place has become a raucous gathering of Pharisees. What a shame in the face of the living God.

    Who are we to judge this, or any man's salvation, when we stand at such a distance from them?
    Please show me chapter and verse from Scripture where this kind of behavior is permitted.
     
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    [quotation of snipped post]

    I don't understand how a Christian can hold to such racist views, you should be ashamed.
     
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    Let me add that not only was I brought up believing otherwise, I was brought up seeing black people in all walks of life. That's the significant part of being grateful for my time in history.

    I want to add a short story. I used to live in the country, and there are very many racist country folk. One Sunday when my oldest was about six years old, a girl at the church we attended brought a little friend with her. She was dark (I think East Indian). Anyway, she felt the need to warn the other kids at church not to "make fun of her" before they met her. On the way home my girl asked, "Why would somebody make fun of her? Is it because she's fat?"
     
  8. Revmitchell

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    Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.


    Mat 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

    It is not man that judges him but it is the word of God. It is a lie that we are not to look for those who claim to be Christian and are not. In fact scripture says just the opposite. We can know who somebody is by comparing their words to the word of God. That is right, and just, as well as the responsibility of the church. There is no scriptural mandate to just take someone at their word. That is a mistake.
     
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    So very ture Preachin ... and isn't it interesting how Pharisees and racists can quote scripture to justify their biases and then say "Not me judging, it is God." But then that is no surprise, after all who quoted scripture to Jesus in the wilderness?
     
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    The pharisees were liberal as they worked to change the word of God. Just as today's liberals do as well as they work to change the constitution. The Pharisees were no doubt liberal. They also quoted scripture.

    And in liberal fashion neither the doctrines of MLK have been addressed nor the scripture that was shown to teach that the church has a responsibility not to just take someone at their word about salvation but their doctrine must be measured against scripture.

    Rather than deal with what disproves their position they just make false accusations and draw up straw men. Good luck with that.:thumbs:
     
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    Let me be clear, I do not hold to this view and it should be deleted from this thread.
     
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    self edited...ML's statements don't deserve a response.
     
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    Thread closed; racist remarks being purged. Thank you for self-restraint.
     
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    Romans 10:9 says what??

    "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
     
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