Wayne Grudem

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by evangelist6589, Aug 5, 2014.

  1. evangelist6589

    evangelist6589
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2010
    Messages:
    8,367
    Likes Received:
    105
    Anyone read him? He is Reformed not Calvinistic so I wont agree with all his views, but he is a scholar (not a pastor)in both theology and Biblical studies. However most of his books seem to be geared in the area of theology, as he does not write many commentaries. I have a book of his coming for my birthday which is a abridged version of his systematic theology text.
     
  2. Greektim

    Greektim
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member
    Supporter

    Joined:
    May 22, 2010
    Messages:
    3,143
    Likes Received:
    118
    He's reformed but not a calvinist?
     
  3. preachinjesus

    preachinjesus
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2004
    Messages:
    7,406
    Likes Received:
    99
    There is a difference. It's a nuanced difference. :)
     
  4. evangelist6589

    evangelist6589
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2010
    Messages:
    8,367
    Likes Received:
    105

    Calvinistic can hold to premillennialism.
     
  5. preachinjesus

    preachinjesus
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2004
    Messages:
    7,406
    Likes Received:
    99
    Only historic premillennialism since Calvin, the namesake of the theology, held this position.
     
  6. RLBosley

    RLBosley
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    1,752
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm pretty sure "Reformed" demands Calvinism. The opposite is not necessary though in the strictest sense. I think Evan got his labels switched.
     
  7. 12strings

    12strings
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2004
    Messages:
    2,743
    Likes Received:
    0
    Evan,

    If my memory is correct, Wayne Grudem is a 5-point Calvinist (soteriologically), who accepts a limited continuationist view of sign gifts, who holds to a Baptist view of Baptism, but, I believe, favors a more elder-led model of baptist polity. As a Credo-Baptist, he is not what many would call FULLY reformed.

    His Systematic Theology has become one of the most widely used in recent years due to its readability by non-theologians. That said, it is very good. He states his own positions and defends them more definitively than Erickson, but also acknowledges more alternate views than Berkoff does.

    It's definitely a good book to have around, both for study, and even for some devotions.

    And to answer your first question, I think it's safe to say most serious theologians have read at least some of grudem, even if only to disagree with him.
     
  8. Greektim

    Greektim
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member
    Supporter

    Joined:
    May 22, 2010
    Messages:
    3,143
    Likes Received:
    118
    My question was rhetorical. Of course he is a calvinist. I like him. One commendable feature of his syst theo book is that it ends each section with a practical point and hymn implying that doctrine is cause for worship.
     
  9. 12strings

    12strings
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2004
    Messages:
    2,743
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yeah, silly guy, that Wayne...he should know that doctrine is only for head knowledge and academia... :laugh:
     
  10. evangelist6589

    evangelist6589
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2010
    Messages:
    8,367
    Likes Received:
    105

    Wrong. Plenty of Calvinistic hold to dispensational theology.
     
  11. evangelist6589

    evangelist6589
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2010
    Messages:
    8,367
    Likes Received:
    105

    I have his systematic theology but only in digital file and these are WORTHLESS for reading through. I am getting his condensed 200 page book. I would also prefer his systematic theology in printed form but I am lacking space for more books of this size. But no doubt a scholarly work.
     
    #11 evangelist6589, Aug 5, 2014
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 5, 2014
  12. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    17,097
    Likes Received:
    49
    I have read and used both him and erickson, and find that each one has strenght/weaknesses compared to the other...

    Erickson seems to read more like a baptist theology though..
     
  13. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    17,097
    Likes Received:
    49
    Think that he is referring to the issues of how he views eschatology...
     
  14. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    17,097
    Likes Received:
    49
    have to ask Dr Macarthur about that though!

    something about being a "leaky Dispy"
     
  15. evangelist6589

    evangelist6589
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2010
    Messages:
    8,367
    Likes Received:
    105

    There are dozens of Calvinistic baptist Churches. Check out Steve Lawson whom is a full Calvinist but also a DISP.
     
  16. Rippon

    Rippon
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2005
    Messages:
    17,404
    Likes Received:
    328
    Not "whom" -- who.
     
  17. JonC

    JonC
    Expand Collapse
    Lifelong Disciple
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2001
    Messages:
    6,971
    Likes Received:
    371
    Like the Doctor. :smilewinkgrin:
     
  18. Rippon

    Rippon
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2005
    Messages:
    17,404
    Likes Received:
    328
    Yeah, like the Doctor. i like that reference. Even evan would recognize that Dr. Whom would sound strange.
     
  19. padredurand

    padredurand
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2004
    Messages:
    4,384
    Likes Received:
    20
    Wayne Grudem? Didn't he coach the Oakland Raiders? :laugh:
     
  20. Winman

    Winman
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2009
    Messages:
    14,768
    Likes Received:
    0
    No, he played hockey.
     

Share This Page

Loading...