Westcott and Hort...

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What is the implication of this post?
Is it not the same as your implication concerning Wescott and Hort?

HankD
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No it is not. Westcott and Hort were heretics/occultists who were responsible for the text that underlines the mv's of today. The KJB translators were not. The KJB translators murdered no one. The KJB translators did not have these heretical views. The KJB translators believed in the deity of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and the infallibility of his words. Westcott and Hort did not.

Eph. 6

10. Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15. And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16. Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18. Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

Matt. 10

25. It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?
26. Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
27. What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.
28. And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

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Is this bad Christology?
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No. But their life and actions, and involvements say and show the opposite of what was written in that.

Matt. 7

5. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17. Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.


2 Cor. 2

17. For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

2 Cor. 6

14. Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15. And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16. And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
18. And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.


Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

Here is another link that I came across last night, that are eerily close to what Westcott and Hort said and what they also studied, and to whom people they were associates with seemed to believe. Please, dear christian, before reading this link, pray for discernment. As the following link is very gnostic.

http://www.essene.com/MysterySchool/TheLostLight/Ambrosia.htm


Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

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I have seen much more evidence of their salvation than I do of Erasums and the Translators of the KJV. In Westcott's book "The Historic Faith" which is mostly online at http://www.tegarttech.com/wh/books/historicfaith/index.html he confesses that Jesus Christ is God, affirms the Trinity, that Jesus was born of a virgin, was sinless, died on the cross for our sins, rose again and is coming again. Westcott calls him "saviour", "God", and "Lord". Read chapters 4, 5, 6 and 7 of that book (it won't take you long), and see for yourself.
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If you put on discernment, and you actually knew how and what gnostics thought, and you recognize not only what they tried to cover in those chapters with christian terminology, but their studies, comments on those studies, their life and their associates, you would see the truth. They were wolves in sheep's clothing, and you are decieved.

Amos 3

3. Can two walk together, except they be agreed?
4. Will a lion roar in the forest, when he hath no prey? will a young lion cry out of his den, if he have taken nothing?
5. Can a bird fall in a snare upon the earth, where no gin is for him? shall one take up a snare from the earth, and have taken nothing at all?
6. Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?
7. Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

2 Cor. 6

13. Now for a recompence in the same, (I speak as unto my children,) be ye also enlarged.
14. Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15. And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16. And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
18. And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.


Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

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Michelle said "Westcott and Hort were heretics/occultists"

False witness.
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Evidence says otherwise. You are bearing false witness against me, and the evidence and defending gnostic unbelievers.


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Michelle said "The KJB translators believed in the deity of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and the infallibility of his words. Westcott and Hort did not."

False witness.
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You are bearing false witness, as you have not any proof to the contrary. Please read the preface of 1611. You are defending gnostic unbelievers.


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Askjo said " Right now they are in hell."

False witness.
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If these two men were gnostics, to which the evidence strongly points, then they were unbelievers and right now in hell. Only God knows if their hearts changed prior to their death.


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Askjo said "W/H were unbelievers who deceived you"

False witness.
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Yes, you are bearing false witness against yourself and others because you are deceived.


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Askjo said "Westcott did not believe that Heaven is PLACE."

False witness.
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This is true, as gnostics do not believe in a literal heaven. Westcott and Hort were gnostics.


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Askjo said "Hort did not believe that the Christ is God."

False witness.
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You are bearing false witness against the truth. These men did not believe Jesus Christ is God. They only believed he was enlightened with the Christ, just as they believed was the potential for every other human being.


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Michelle said "their life and actions, and involvements say and show the opposite of what was written in that."

False witness.
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You are bearing false witness against the evidence and the truth.


Why do you keep yourself in denial and deception of this?


love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

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he confesses that Jesus Christ is God, affirms the Trinity, that Jesus was born of a virgin, was sinless, died on the cross for our sins, rose again and is coming again. Westcott calls him "saviour", "God", and "Lord". Read chapters 4, 5, 6 and 7 of that book (it won't take you long), and see for yourself.
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Just as many heretics and apostates have done, and continue to do. By their fruits you shall know them. Also remember:

2 Cor.11

10. As the truth of Christ is in me, no man shall stop me of this boasting in the regions of Achaia.
11. Wherefore? because I love you not? God knoweth.
12. But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
16. I say again, Let no man think me a fool; if otherwise, yet as a fool receive me, that I may boast myself a little.
17. That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting.
18. Seeing that many glory after the flesh, I will glory also.
19. For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise.
20. For ye suffer, if a man bring you into bondage, if a man devour you, if a man take of you, if a man exalt himself, if a man smite you on the face.


love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

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If you would take off your heavily biased glasses and look at things unfiltered by your desire to commit slander, you would see the truth.

michelle said "They were wolves in sheep's clothing, and you are decieved."

False witness.
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I don't have the bias in this, but the truth and love for it. It is you sadly, who needs to take off the glasses of bias against a false and man-made label, and of doubt. You are allowing yourself to be deceived because of this. You are bearing false witness against the truth and defending and condoning that to which you should not.


love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

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Not providing proof is not bearing false witness. Trying to pass of slander as proof is bearing false witness. I have provided proof, I have provided links to their first-hand writings, unlike you who have only provided links to 3rd and 4th hand slander and have tried desperately (and unsuccessfully) to create guilt by association.

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And you are ignoring ALL OTHER EVIDENCE that speaks to the contrary, and them claiming I am slandering and bearing false witness. It is you who is guilty of this.


Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle