What about Ruckmanites?

Greetings in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!
Can anybody give me teachings or doctrine about this Ruckmanites? This sounds new to me any example for their flip flop of doctrines so that I can be aware of? We know that we are in this apostate hour.

 

Do a Google on "Peter Ruckman" and/or "advanced revelation" and you will be busy for a long time with some very unusual doctrine.

HankD

 

My experience with this pseudo-Christian sect is very different. For several months I infiltrated a “church” belonging to the sect and learned that it owns a very large facility and that it has several hundred members. They are not active in street preaching but observe of the JW practice of spreading their sect by door to door visitation, very much to the distress of those whom they disturb in their own homes! During this time, I developed close relationships with about 35 of the members and was invited to their homes, work parties, etc., and I accepted the invitations, spending as much as 40 hours with some individuals over a period of a few months.

What I experienced with this sect was strikingly similar to what I experienced with another pseudo-Christian sect know as the “Coonyites” or the “Two by Twos.” The members of both of these sects were so severely brainwashed that to a substantial extent they had lost touch with reality and frequently answered my question in a robotic manner spewing out the words that had been programmed into their heads. And from their point of view, they are God’s chosen people and those outside of their sect are enemies of the cross of Christ and need to be saved.

Based upon my experience with the pseudo-Christian sect that Ruckman belongs to, I believe that the members of the sect are in grave peril and VERY MUCH in need of our prayers. Most of them appear to me to be beyond hope, but within this sect there are many who are very much lost and still searching for help.

In closing, I will comment that I do NOT believe that the members of this sect are Baptists. They share with Baptists several doctrines on the surface, but below the surface they have nothing in common with us.

 

My experience has been quite different. We have a number of them in the general area in which I live (i.e., KJVO churches). I count them as brothers in the Lord, and as Baptists, in fact these ones are IFB churches. In doctrine they are straight down the line fundamental just as we are. Our youth groups cooperate with each other. We organize camps with each other, as well as other conferences.
KJVO is about the only thing that we differ on. These people are not heretics, only doctrinally misled. A Charismatic, for example, may still be a Christian, but one who is mixed up doctrinally (and I think more mixed up than a KJVO).

KJVO is generally a position taken out of sentimentality, or an emotional attachment to a book which they are afraid to change. People are afraid to change. Some therefore go to extremes and build a hedge about them to prevent that change. That hedge may be so extreme as to say that the KJV is just as inspired (or even more so) than the Hebrew and Greek--a ridiculous position. But people hate change. The same type of things have happened in the past. People didn't want change after Jerome's Vulgate. It was the standard. And when other translations came about people resisted.

In our church to combat error, we constantly teach the error of KJVO. We use examples: the OT "unicorn," the NT "easter," the differences between the various editions of the KJV, and therefore how it would be impossible for any one of them to be infallible. For even one of them to have just one error of any kind would mean that it is fallible and therefore not inspired. God makes no mistakes. What it boils down to is a matter of soul liberty. They can believe that way if they like, just don't force it upon us.
DHK

 

I am a "King James man" but I dont try to force it on others. The other bibles just dont seem to speak to me like the AV1611 does. I guess its like choosing a ribeye over ground chuck.

(I might note that I have had dinner with Ruckman and sat at the same table with him. He is an unusual man to say the least. It would have been interesting to see waht would have become of him had he not gotten saved and become a preacher.)

 

The best book on this is "The King James Only Controversy" by James White. This book deals specifically with Ruckman and others.

 

I believe the problem with the KJVO folks is that they simply deny that any other translation is the Word. What in the world did the poor folks read who lived before 1611?

I think there are three versions of the KJV, 1611, 1629, and 1769. The KJV was not the first English translation. It was Coverdale in 1535. I love my KJV and all the veres I've memorized are KJV. I preach from KJV.

I used to think that it was the only good version around. Since I did some research into the issue, I have changed my position. I am now of the opinion that the New American Standard is the most accurate word for word translation we have available to us today.