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What about the New King James?

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Dale-c, Sep 4, 2009.

  1. Rippon

    Rippon Well-Known Member
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    Okay, I looked at 9:2 through 14:35. Of the 36 phrases 21 were identical between the Tyndale Translation and the NKJ.

    Some notes along the way:

    Regarding 9:6, the NKJ has "go to." The TT (Tyndale Translation) has "go home."

    In 11:14 the NKJ has "to come", the KJ has "for to come" while the TT has "which should come."

    In 12:2 the NKJ has "and when", the KJV has "But when" and the TT has "when".

    In 13:57

    KJV : offended in him
    TT : offended by him

    In 11:22

    KJV : more tolerable
    TT : easier

    In 14:9

    KJV : sat with him at meat
    TT : sat also at the table

    In 14:30

    KJV : saw the wind boisterous
    TT : saw a mighty wind
     
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  2. Rippon

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    Continuing to comment on Post#16 by Logos1560.

    From 15:8 through 21:19 I found 14 of the 24 phrases matched up between the NKJ and the TT(Tyndale Translation).

    I have a few notes.

    In 16:23

    NKJ : but the things
    TT : but worldly things

    18:17

    NKJ : refuses
    TT : hear thee not

    18:26

    NKJ : Master
    TT : Sir

    19:18

    NKJ : He said
    TT : And Jesus said
     
  3. Rippon

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    Continuing to reply to post #16 of Logos1560.

    In looking at the snips between Matthew 22:8 through 28:19, I found 23 of the 37 items matched the NKJ.

    Some notes follow.

    23:14

    KJV : for a pretence make long prayer
    TT : under a colour of praying long prayers
    Gen : under a colour of long prayers

    23:15

    KJV : to make one proselyte
    TT : to bring one into your belief
    Gen : to make one of your profession

    24:7

    KJV, Gen : in divers places
    TT : in all quarters

    24:48

    KJV : delayeth his coming
    TT : will defer his coming
    Gen : doth defer his coming

    26:4

    KJV,Gen : consulted
    TT : held a council

    26:40

    KJV : findeth them asleep
    TT,Gen : found them asleep

    26:45

    KJV : the Son of man is betrayed
    TT : the son of man shall be betrayed
    Gen : the Son of Man is given into the hands of sinners

    26:62

    K : what is it which these witnesses against thee?
    T : How is it that these bear witness against thee?
    Gen : What is the matter that these men witness against thee?

    26:63

    K : I adjure thee
    T,G : I charge thee

    28:14

    K,G : we will persuade him
    T : we will appease him

    Conclusion : Out of a grand total of 126 items, the Tyndale translation matched up with the NKJ 79 times. That's about 63% of the time. The Geneva matched up much more frequently -- but the latter was using the Tyndale Translation as a base. Evenso, the Geneva Bible sounds more modern to contemporary ears than the KJV.

    I think some of your items were a bit too picky -- like having "He" instead of "he". But overall, I always appreciate your research into these matters. Thanks.
     
  4. franklinmonroe

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    Yes, in the second portion of 1 John 2:23. But the KJV did also.
     
  5. franklinmonroe

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    It is interesting to note that the people responsible for this website say this about a Baptist church --
    "counterfeit Christian establishment"
    "not a genuine church"
    "it was founded and run by agents of Satan who were posing as Christians"
    "evil spirits they sent on assignment (curses) to afflict our family"​
     
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    Hmmm, interesting. Sounds like the description a few folks on this board give to any church or denomination they disagree with.
     
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    Yikes!

    Well, that was a site that popped up on Google as presenting some sort of KJVO justfication for rejecting the NKJV.

    As I said early in this thread, I have no dog in this fight.

    :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    The authoress of their "statement of faith" has been posting on the "Fighting Fundamental" site for a little while, where her pro-KJVO arguments are systematically dismantled and proven false. They're the same ole garbage in a new dumpster.

    You can see her name at the enda their statement of faith, & find her posts at
    http://www.fundamentalforums.com/bi...uiz-may-work-with-other-perversions-also.html

    and in some of the other recent threads, if interested.
     
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    That site is a disgrace to Christianity.
     
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    It is my understanding that the KJVO folks said they would support a new Bible translation that used the same texts as the KJV for its base. After the NKJV came out, the goal posts suddenly moved. The folks that said they would support the new version began to claim that each and every word in the KJV was perfect and any change was evil. They looked long and hard for anything they could find to malign the NKJV. Most complaints have centered on the symbol that Thomas Nelson put on the front cover (which had nothing to do with the translation and is no longer on the cover) and the footnotes explaining the differences between the TR, Majority, and Critical texts.
     
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    Examples from the book of Acts:

    Acts 1:3 presented (Geneva, NKJV) shewed (KJV)
    Acts 1:3 that he had suffered (Geneva) his passion (KJV) His suffering (NKJV)
    Acts 1:4 but to wait (Geneva, NKJV) but wait (KJV)
    Acts 1:19 their own language (Geneva, NKJV) their proper tongue (KJV)
    Acts 1:20 charge (Geneva) bishopric (KJV) office (NKJV)
    Acts 1:22 be made (Geneva) be ordained (KJV) become (NKJV)
    Acts 2:8 language (Geneva, NKJV) tongue (KJV)
    Acts 2:13 They are full (Geneva, NKJV) These men are full (KJV)
    Acts 2:15 since it is (Geneva, NKJV) seeing it is (KJV)
    Acts 2:34 sit at (Geneva, NKJV) sit thou on (KJV)
    Acts 3:12 So when Peter (Geneva, NKJV) And when Peter (KJV)
    Acts 3:12 or godliness (Geneva, NKJV) or holiness (KJV)
    Acts 3:17 I know (Geneva, NKJV) I wot (KJV)
    Acts 3:18 thus fulfilled (Geneva, NKJV) so fulfilled (KJV)
    Acts 3:23 shall be (Geneva, NKJV) shall come to pass (KJV)
    Acts 3:25 to Abraham (Geneva, NKJV) unto Abraham (KJV)
    Acts 4:18 So they (Geneva, NKJV) And they (KJV)
    Acts 4:28 to do (Geneva, NKJV) For to do (KJV)
    Acts 5:16 were all healed (Geneva, NKJV) were healed every one (KJV)
    Acts 5:21 all the elders (Geneva, NKJV) all the senate (KJV)
    Acts 5:35 Men of Israel (Geneva, NKJV) Ye men of Israel (KJV)
    Acts 5:41 So they (Geneva, NKJV) And they (KJV)
    Acts 6:11 against Moses and God (Geneva, NKJV) against Moses and against God (KJV)
    Acts 7:6 But God (Geneva, NKJV) And God (KJV)
    Acts 7:11 famine (Geneva, NKJV) dearth (KJV)
    Acts 7:17 near (Geneva, NKJV) nigh (KJV)
    Acts 7:20 acceptable unto God (Geneva) exceeding fair (KJV) well pleasing to God (NKJV)
    Acts 7:38 congregation (Geneva, NKJV) church (KJV)
    Acts 7:40 know not (Geneva) wot not (KJV) do not know (NKJV)
    Acts 8:23 For I see (Geneva, NKJV) For I perceive (KJV)
    Acts 8:27 to worship (Geneva, NKJV) for to worship (KJV)
    Acts 9:8 from the ground (Geneva, NKJV) from the earth (KJV)
    Acts 9:9 ate nor drank (Geneva, NKJV) did eat nor drink (KJV)
    Acts 9:16 how many things (Geneva, NKJV) how great things (KJV)
    Acts 9:22 the Christ (Geneva, NKJV) very Christ (KJV)
    Acts 9:38 near (Geneva, NKJV) nigh (KJV)
    Acts 10:2 household (Geneva, NKJV) house (KJV)
    Acts 10:9 near (Geneva, NKJV) nigh (KJV)
    Acts 11:1 Now the (Geneva, NKJV) And the (KJV)
    Acts 11:25 to seek (Geneva, NKJV) for to seek (KJV)
    Acts 11:28 famine (Geneva, NKJV) dearth (KJV)
    Acts 12:4 passover (Geneva, NKJV) Easter (KJV)
    Acts 12:9 knew not (Geneva) wist not (KJV) did not know (KJV)
    Acts 13:10 straight ways (Geneva, NKJV) right ways (KJV)
    Acts 13:16 hearken (Geneva) guide audience (KJV) listen (KJV)
    Acts 13:20 about four (Geneva, NKJV) about the space of four (KJV)
    Acts 13:22 will do (Geneva, NKJV) shall fulfill (KJV)
    Acts 13:35 wilt not (Geneva) shalt no (KJV) will not (NKJV)
    Acts 13:36 with his fathers (Geneva, NKJV) unto his fathers (KJV)
    Acts 14:14 But when (Geneva, NKJV) Which when (KJV)
    Acts 14:15 O men (Geneva) Sirs (KJV) Men (NKJV)
    Acts 14:23 in whom (Geneva, NKJV) on whom (KJV)
    Acts 14:25 to Attalia (Geneva, NKJV) into Attalia (KJV)
    Acts 14:26 commended (Geneva, NKJV) recommended (KJV)
    Acts 15:3 sent (Geneva, NKJV) brought (KJV)
    Acts 15:23 and the brethren (Geneva, NKJV) and brethren (KJV)
    Acts 15:25 to us (Geneva, NKJV) unto us (KJV)
    Acts 15:29 from things (Geneva, NKJV) from meats (KJV)
    Acts 15:40 commended (Geneva, NKJV) recommended (KJV)
    Acts 16:4 to keep (Geneva, NKJV) for to keep (KJV)
    Acts 16:10 to preach (Geneva, NKJV) for to preach (KJV)
    Acts 16:14 things which Paul spake (Geneva) things which were spoken of Paul (KJV)
    things spoken by Paul (NKJV)
    Acts 16:22 them to be beaten with rods (Geneva, NKJV) to beat them (KJV)
    Acts 16:31 household (Geneva, NKJV) house (KJV)
    Acts 16:34 household (Geneva, NKJV) house (KJV)
    Acts 17:4 joined in company (Geneva) consorted (KJV) joined (NKJV)
    Acts 17:6 But when they (Geneva, NKJV) And when they (KJV)
    Acts 17:26 to dwell (Geneva, NKJV) for to dwell (KJV)
    Acts 17:34 among whom (Geneva) among the which (KJV) among them (NKJV)
    Acts 18:5 the Christ (Geneva, NKJV) Christ (KJV)
    Acts 18:28 the Christ (Geneva, NKJV) Christ (KJV)
    Acts 19:28 Now when they (Geneva, NKJV) And when they (KJV)
    Acts 20:1 to go (Geneva, NKJV) for to go (KJV)
    Acts 20:9 overcome with sleep (Geneva) sunk down with sleep (KJV) overcome by sleep (NKJV)
    Acts 20:10 But Paul (Geneva, NKJV) And Paul (KJV)
    Acts 20:13 Then we (Geneva, NKJV) And we (KJV)
    Acts 20:28 whereof (Geneva) over the which (KJV) among which (NKJV)
    Acts 21:38 the Egyptian (Geneva, NKJV) that Egyptian (KJV)
    Acts 22:2 he said (Geneva, NKJV) he saith (KJV)
    Acts 22:6 as I journeyed (Geneva, NKJV) as I made my journey (KJV)
    Acts 22:6 near (Geneva, NKJV) nigh (KJV)
    Acts 22:8 to me (Geneva, NKJV) unto me (KJV)
    Acts 22:17 Syrtes (Geneva) quicksands (KJV) Syrtis Sands (NKJV)
    Acts 22:20 clothes (Geneva, NKJV) raiment (KJV)
    Acts 22:21 Then he (Geneva) And he (KJV) Then He (NKJV)
    Acts 22:27 to him (Geneva, NKJV) unto him (KJV)
    Acts 22:30 On the next day (Geneva) On the morrow (KJV) The next day (NKJV)
    Acts 23:3 to him (Geneva, NKJV) unto him (KJV)
    Acts 23:9 Then there (Geneva, NKJV) And there (KJV)
    Acts 23:14 oath (Geneva, NKJV) curse (KJV)
    Acts 23:32 And the next day (Geneva) On the morrow (KJV) The next day (NKJV)
    Acts 23:34 read it (Geneva, NKJV) read the letter (KJV)
    Acts 24:1 came down (Geneva, NKJV) descended (KJV)
    Acts 24:4 courtesy (Geneva, NKJV) clemency (KJV)
    Acts 24:11 to worship (Geneva, NKJV) for to worship (KJV)
    Acts 26:28 to become (Geneva, NKJV) to be (KJV)
    Acts 28:21 Then they (Geneva, NKJV) And they (KJV)
    Acts 28:21 any evil (Geneva, NKJV) any harm (KJV)
    Acts 28:24 some were persuaded (Geneva, NKJV) some believed (KJV)
    Acts 28:27 should return (Geneva) should be converted (KJV) turn (NKJV)
     
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