What are the Words of Jesus?

AMEN Brother Bob I second that

 

From some of the posts the following bears repeating:

I believe in the plenary verbal inspiration of the Bible. However, that does not mean that all the words in Scripture are the words of, or spoken by, God; rather that He caused to be recorded what He wished to be recorded. Recall that in Genesis 3 some of the words recorded are the words of Satan

 

Those are good points. Certainly I consider the Bible to be the inspired, infallible, Word of God and I don't see how my view of scripture can be any higher. But you still need a good translation and there are a few translation errors in all of the good translations. That said, I pretty much consider the whole thing the Words of Christ like others.

I do like red-letter versions, however. My e-Sword KJV 2000 bible has the words of the Trinity in red from Genesis to Revelation, and I have found it more revealing than ever I could have imagined. I've really enjoyed it.

 

Of course we all believe THAT. But it's not an argument if it's worded that way.

 

Of course we all believe THAT. But it's not an argument if it's worded that way. </font>[/QUOTE]It is a very good argument Gina.
All the Bible is the Word of God.
But not all the Bible are the "words" of God.
There is a big difference.
The entire Bible is inspired of God (2Tim.3:16).
But that still doesn't mean that God spoke every word, even though the word for inspiration means "God breathed."
What it does mean is that every word is accurately recorded just the way that God wanted it to be recorded. In other words, the lie that Satan told to Eve in the garden was recorded very accurately as a lie, just as God wanted it to be recorded. But that is not God's word. Those are Satan's words recorded by the Holy Spirit of God and inspired by Him. There are many such statements in the Bible that Christ would not agree with. Much of the Bible is recorded history, an accurate and inspired account of the history of the nation of Israel. What they said and did was not always of God. What is written is inspired of God.
DHK

 

I totally agree with what you are saying DHK. I do hope that Joseph meant the same thing, and worded it poorly.

 

I too agree

This too I agree

 

DITTO...this is how I understand that the Bible is the Word of God!!

Breathed out and written by humans as inspired by God. The humans used their own writing style and personality when writing their books but it was all inspired and directed by the Great Conductor...God Himself!!

 

No, not all the words you read in the New Testament are of Jesus. For most of the New Testament was written by his followers and men like Paul wrote letters to the churches. Some of the things Paul wrote were his personal thoughts and some were commandments from the Lord. Also a lot were historical accounts about Israel in the past. Especially the book of Hebrews and the Old covenant priesthood.

Actually Jesus never wrote anything, but what he said was written by others who followed him. So his words are second hand.

 

If that is what you meant, Joseph, I don't have any disagreement.

 

DHK

Thanks for clearly making the point that I apparently failed to make! It is an important point that should be understood.

 

I disagree. All the words in Scripture are not the words of Christ.

I believe all of scripture is inspired by God, authoritative and trustworthy. I believe the whole bible is useful for teaching and rebuking.

Some of scripture is God's words spoken directly to the authors of certain books or sources of those authors. Some of the NT is Jesus' words recorded by his followers. The rest are writings from people who are not God nor Christ but I believe they were inspired by God and filled with the Holy Spirit to write things that are useful for teaching, rebuking and correcting when understood in their context.

Every word in the bible should not be understood as God or Christ speaking but it should be understood within the context of how it is found, as narration, poetry, lists, etc.

Hermeneutics that considers all words found in the bible to be the words of God or Christ lead to mistakes like the one noted recently on this board where the words of Satan from Luke 4:7 were quoted on a church website and attributed to God.