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I did contribute something intelligent. If answering is too hard for you, feel free to butt out.

 

Thank you for that.

 

You are welcome and don't tell anyone.

 

It's just between you and me.

 

If I vote, can I change it next month? ;-). I should want to vote for three! And really, no classical Arminians yet? Are you kidding?

 

Though I am Neither Hyper or Supra, I though it should be pointed out that they are 2 different things.

 

#7.

Kinda goes without saying, but for the sake of those less discerning than I am, I will say it.

 

I voted Classical Arminian for several reasons:

• It looked so lonely with zero votes.
• I wanted to get something out of that $30,000 I spent on my Classical Arminian education.
• I was going to vote Genius but my overwhelming humility kept from voting as such.
• I like to annoy people from New Jersey.

Nuance: A subtle or slight degree of difference, as in meaning, feeling, or tone; a gradation. source

Am I the only one troubled by this word? How many permutation of truth are there?

 

It attempts to reconcile free will with predestination. It's hard to summarize in a couple of sentences but here's my lame attempt.

God knows everything--everything that He causes to happen, everything that people will choose to do, even everything people would choose to do if they were placed in any possible scenario. Example: God knows what you would do if you were born a blind person in Sierra Leone just as easily as He knows what you are doing in your present life. God knows billions and trillions of possible outcomes and orchestrates them according to His will.

Thus you are predestinated to make a free will choice to become a Christian because God created the world in such a way to cause His grace to be effectively applied to you, resulting in your salvation.

It could be argued that you really didn't have a free will in the matter, since God orchestrated the world and circumstances to cause you to be in a place where you would accept Christ, but from your point of view, you chose to believe.

I've probably got bits of this wrong. Perhaps others that have been studying Molinism longer than I have can chime in.

 

For the questions on the number of permutations:

nPr = n!/(n-r)!

 

Unless you were infralapsarian and then wouldn't nCr = n! / ((n-r)!*r!) apply?

 

It all depends. Is "order" important. If order matters, then permutations, if not, then combinations.
Kudos Padredurand

 

i got ridiculed for pointing out that there were not enough choices.

John

 

Wouldn't this be your fault for limiting this poll so severly?

 

Although there is no free will....but free moral agency...this statement is basically the biblical doctrine of unconditioanal election and irresistable grace,ITL!!!:applause::applause:

1]you are predestinated

2]because God

3]in such a way to cause His grace to be effectively applied to you, resulting in your salvation

:thumbsup::thumbs:

 

Your insults and arrogance are unbecoming. But bray on.

I'd be willing to bet that I know what free will and predestination are more than you do, and also free will and free moral agency. I have been studying such things for four decades.

In manners, you are uneducable. But bray on.