What are your thoughts on this statement

Nobody said God has to show out or off, same thing. Constructive criticism doesn't use condemning words like "sanctimonious"

 

Anything God does is godly, whether it be showing up, out or off. A "show off" is conceited and a braggart, but for anyone to "show off" something is more to be for display. God displays, God shows off, but God is NOT a "show off". Clarity in criticism is not calling God anything like condemning criticism does to attribute human negative character flaws does.

 

You should know since you are the very definition of it.

 

It seems your ministry is to make some one's stay as unpleasant as possible with the continuity of your attacks. How God's face must shine down on ministries like yours!

 

You are basically making the case here for what others are tying to say. Of course no one here believes that God would show off in a braggart way, that is the point. The wording gives off the impression that is what is being said. Can you say with certainty that every person sitting in attendance that day would understand just what you are clarifying? How about a visitor, or a young teen, or a babe in Christ who is immature?

No words anyone can say could ever make or limit God of anything, and as you have pointed out anything He does is Godly, because He is God. But what we say and how we say it can give a perception to some of us imperfect people, so we should use some judgment in how we describe God to others.

 

to add to Steven's comment about everyone hearing the comment not fully understanding - We also don't know that anyone who made that type of comment has full understanding of it's implications. I think the example given of Benny Hinn was a fair one. There are many other ilks that may not be fully heretical but on the cusp. I would be wary a leader new to me for (at least) a while who made that kind of statement. I would be listening carefully to his other statements and praying for discernment. If it was a leader I was familiar with, I'd perk my ears up for a while.

 

I agree 100%, that would be a red flag to me as well.

 

Anyone present where God has made his presence known will have no problem understanding. I do know some would not recognise his presence on a level to merit such a response but I have seen some others at first not know, then after awhile realize he was there

 

I am not sure I am understanding what you are saying. Are you saying that any person that sits in a church service will always understand completly everything being said?

 

No. I said anyone in the presence of God when he makes himself known cannot deny the Supernatural. God manifests his presence always according to the bible and in a way which doesn't leave people guessing

 

OK, but I am not sure I understand exactly how that answers the OP.

 

I often used that very same expression to describe my children's behavior at church.

Not gonna use it to describe the presence of the Holy Spirit when he manifests in an awesome way during a service or any other time.

It simmply isn't respectful enough.

 

It is commonly heard in Charismatic Victory "centers"...

First of all, it is based on the false premise that we can pray down the Holy Spirit.. "God showed up".. it's based on the Day of Pentecost, Acts 2, scenario.. that all good Charismatics want to happen each time they meet...

I HATE it when people pray that the Holy Spirit shows up... because if we are saved, we bring the Holy Spirit with us.

The second part of the phrase.. the showing off part, speaks to the greed in charismatic churches... it's not about what they can do for God.. but about what God can do for them....

True worship is giving to God..
NOT taking from God.

So I have definite problems with that phrase... It's all about the person, and what the person receives for going to church...

It immediately signifies a baby Christian.

 

What is sad is when Baptists give so much credit to the Charismatic movement when people speak of a bible event. I, for one will not let them rob me of my Baptist heritage.

 

Doesn't make any sense to me!

 

I have never heard this expression, even though I attended an Assembly of God church for a short while years ago. I don't particularly like it even though it would not bother me that much. I believe the person making the comment is not speaking literally of God as much as they are simply saying that there was a moving of God in the service that day.

I believe part of the problem is that so many of our Baptist churches have gotten so cerebral, they are afraid to show any emotion at all. Also, we are afraid we will look like the Charismatics!

Maxdeaf, why do you feel the need to put others down so often? Do you think it adds to your service for God?

 

My sentiments exactly!

 

Name's Mexdeaf. Thanks.

 

You might want to reconsider Maxdeaf does sound pretty cool. :laugh: