What changed when the HOLY SPIRIT came?

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  1. Skandelon

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    I am curious what you all believe changed after the coming of the Holy Spirit in Acts 2?

    The HS is mentioned many times prior to His arrival in Acts, but this Pentecost event was most certainly unique. I'm wanting to know what, if anything, changed in our world after His arrival.

    Is man's nature or abilities affected? Is God's revelation of Himself any different? Are people more or less convicted of their wrong doing as a result? What, if anything, has been changed with His arrival?

    Any input you have from your perspective is appreciated. Thanks!
     
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    Some of those changed items were:
    Now ALL believers were to be baptised by Him into Body of Christ
    All in Christ were permanently indwelt by Holy Spirit, no longer just annoiting a chosen few, for just a time as in OT
    All in Christ have have a Spiritual Gift granted by Holy Spirit, as He so wills...
    he has come to bring illumination to the Bible, the "Perfect Teacher" He gives Christian very power of God to resist temptation, and power to do our assigned mission from God...

    Yes, quite a few changes as compared to prior to his Coming!
     
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    I don't remember...I was rolling around on the floor laughing hysterically and barking like a dog occasionally :D
     
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    I agree. :thumbsup:
     
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    Hey Web, did you speak an unknown language? Did you speak dog? And was there an interpreter?
     
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    How about:

    Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
    Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
    Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

    Yeah, I know, I'm going to get called a universalist again. :rolleyes: But i believe that before the Holy Spirit, Israel was the witness of God to draw the people, but after the coming of the Holy Spirit their rather poor excuse for drawing, was replaced with the drawing of the Holy Spirit who draws in such a manner as suits the individual.
     
  7. Skandelon

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    Could the Holy Spirits arrival at Pentecost and the sending of the powerful Gospel's appeal for reconciliation to "every creature" be powerless to give men all they require to come to faith?

    If so, where is such a doctrine clearly taught in scripture?
     
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    It's interesting to me how much Calvinists will quote all these passages about how sinful we are and how much of enemies we are to God and how we can't submit to him without divine intervention, but then when the scripture goes on to speak of the Holy Spirit falling down like fire from heaven, indwelling the hearts of men inspiring them to write the scriptures and spread the powerful gospel truth they just PRESUME that is insufficient to bring someone to faith without some ADDITIONAL inward secret irresistible working.

    Amazing.
     
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    The strongest points of one's argument are not typically reflected in the portion that his opponents address, but in the portions ignored
     
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    That's not being slain in the Spirit. That's laughing in the Spirit and Barking in the Spirit. I've seen the laughing on "Christian" TV, but somehow I missed the barking church service.

    Ever hear of Rodney Howard Browne? His church started the laughing thing, if I remember right.
     
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    Salvation, justification& adoption. An individual-centered covenant relationship; no more need for a human priest, profit or pastoral intermediary.
     
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    About 40 or so years ago B. A. Sizemore, who tragically died in a car crash in the 1970's, gave a series of lectures at our church on the Holy Spirit. He said the big difference is that in the OT the Holy Spirit came to people for specific purposes and then left. After Pentecost the Holy Spirit came and has stayed.

    We can say that the Holy Spirit is "God with us now."

    I wish I had my notes from his lectures. I have them at home in the States somewhere.
     
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    Since the OT saints did not have the indwelling Spirit (earnest of the Spirit) would it be safe to say that they never really had or felt assurance in their relationship with God?
     
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    Great point. Which seems to me would negate the concept that some believe we are "saving ourselves" or "seeking God on our own" or "coming to God by ourselves" since God has sent his Spirit into the world, who wrought the gospel and indwells messengers to spread it throughout the world. Why would anyone assume that work is insufficient to save?
     

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