What denominations do you accept?

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  1. Gina B

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    I've met baptists who not only don't accept other denoms as Christians, but don't accept baptists of other types a Christians, and (thankfully) an extreme few who don't accept other area church members of the exact same Baptist denom as Christian.

    I've been called extreme and hypocrite and blah blah blah by other baptists who think I'm too accepting of other religions AND by other religions who think I too unnaccepting of other religions.

    Where are you at with the issue? What other denoms would you basically accept as a whole as being brothers and sisters in Christ?

    I don't know a ton of other denoms and what they believe, but so far...

    I CAN BELIEVE THE FOLLOWING ARE PART OF THE CHURCH

    IFB's
    SBC'S
    ABC'S
    Lutherans
    Evangelical Free
    Methodists
    Protestant
    Quakers
    CoG's
    Brethren
    Mennonite
    Presbyterian
    Messianic Jew

    I BELIEVE THE FOLLOWING ARE FALSE

    Many Catholic churches
    LDS
    Islam
    Moonies
     
  2. Pete Richert

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    double post
     
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    Obviously anyone who truly trusts in the Lord Jesus christ is saved so the question is really to what sort of belief system systematically excludes somewhat from actually doing that since it would be a contradiction with the rest of their system. After that lenghly intro, here is my two cents.

    IFB's: Of course
    SBC'S: Yes
    ABC'S: The network!
    Lutherans: Most yes. Though the larger denominations don't preach the gospel anymore.
    Evangelical Free: Yes: used to go to one.
    Methodists: the conservative ones yes. But larger denominations stop preaching the gospel years ago.
    Protestant: catch all? yes, those that understand the gospel.
    Quakers: have no info
    CoG's: ?
    Brethren: yes, you to go to one
    Mennonite: those that are truly Christian and not "Mennonite" by heritage only.
    Presbyterian: yes
    Messianic Jew: yes
     
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    I receive denominations of $100's, $50's, $20's, $10's & $5's & $1's!!!!

    I am a "blah, blah, blah"

    I'll receive other Baptist's other than SBC'ers---but others like Methodists and Pentacostals---I'm gonna have to "dunk" ya first!
     
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    I personally do not accept any denomination. Not even the one I attend which is Baptist. I only accept those individual people as Christian who believe the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus for the salvation of men and that we receive that salvation when we come to repentance towards God and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ proven by how we live our lives. A salvation by grace through faith. Denominations mean absolutely nothing to me.
     
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    They need to get off their high horse before they find that they're riding on the wrong trail.
     
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    my list would be very small
    I would say just a few reformed baptist churches would be giving the gospel and a few other denoms
    most baptist churches that are arminian in doctrine would not be accountable, and you probably would have very few saved people in most churches other then those that are doctrinally sound.

    I would have to include most of your list as not a safe bet.
     
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    "What other denoms would you basically accept as a whole as being brothers and sisters in Christ?"
    None.

    Denominations often give you a good idea about what the members are supposed to believe. Doesn't mean those individual members actually do that.
    Also there are different levels of misguidedness.
    I mean I have a huge amount of brothers and sisters in Christ. But all of them get things wrong (including me).
    Some extend baptism to babies, others believe in predestination, some disdain pacifism and the next group spends more time slandering groups they disagree with instead of building up their own.
     
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    People are saved by their hearts, not by their denominational affiliations. At least, I certainly hope no one would ever make a determination about me based on my affiliation, whether it be good or bad.

    I refuse to make the same determination about another person in the same manner. I've known many saved Catholics, and a few unsaved Baptists. I've even known one saved Muslim.

    I've never known a saved IRS agent, though. :eek:
     
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    how did you determine who you believed to be saved? I am very curious as to the muslim and how you have determined his salvation?
     
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    A person who has professed Jesus Christ as personal Lord and savior, with genuineness, I'd presume to be saved. He says he's managed to balance his culture (he's persian) with his CHristian faith, without compromising his Christian faith. I know he goes to the mosque with his family, and he's also gone to church with my friends (they're Presby). When he comes to bible study with us, he's clearly cognisant, believing, and professing of Christ and the Word. I take him at his face value. How he manages to balance the rest of his cultural life is beyond me, and I figure that's between him and God, and not my place to judge. I've known Jews in the past (I don't know any currently) who have done the same thing: church on Sundays, and Temple on Friday nights). Now, I don't agree with Islam, or Judaism, for that matter, but I also know Christians who don't think spiritually well of the SBC.

    But as far as determining one's salvation, I don't think I or anyone can truly determine one's salvation (the bible tells us not to do this). I have to accept it at face value. I can't be, nor to I want to be, a judge of someone's salvation. That's God's alone.

    Except for the IRS agent :eek:
     
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    In 2000 it was reported that several international mission organizations, including Youth With A Mission (YWAM) are testing a new approach to missionary work in areas where Christianity is unwelcome. The March 24, 2000 Charisma News Service report said some missionaries are now making converts but are allowing them to "hold on to many of their traditional religious beliefs and practices," so as to refrain from offending others within their culture. The Charisma article noted: "Messianic Muslims, who continue to read the Koran, visit the mosque and say their daily prayers but accept Christ as their Savior, are the products of the strategy which is being tried in several countries." A YWAM staff writer wrote: "They continue a life of following the Islamic requirements, including mosque attendance, fasting and Koranic reading, besides getting together as a fellowship of Muslims who acknowledge Christ as the source of God's mercy for them... YWAM is also adopting this approach in India, where a team is working with a Hindu holy man." (Foundation, May/June 2000, p. 39)

    Mosque attendance and Koranic reading endorses Allah as the only true God and Mohammed as his true prophet. The Koran sees Jesus as only a prophet and not God's Son. Can one be a Messianic Christian and a Muslim believer at the same time?
     
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    No one can be a slave of two masters, since either he will hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. --Matthew 6:24a (The Holman Christian Standard Bible)
     
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    Not my cross to bear, so to speak. His family doesn't have a problem with his accepting Christ as Savior, and the most certainly don't have a problems with us, his bible study partners. In fact, his mother has often made food for him to bring to us for Bible study (we take turns bringing refreshments). I think we (meaning, the group of people I have Bible study and fellowship with) have bigger concerns. If this person ever has concerns over his spiritual life, then we as his brothers in Christ will prayerfully support him with whatevever the Holy Spirit calls us to do at this time. IF he feels his Muslim culture is compromising his Christian faith, then we will prayerfully assist him in leaving behind whatever parts of his culture he needs to in order to strengthen his Christian faith. But the Holy Spirit has called us to other things right now, so it is there where we're concentrating ourselves.
     
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    i have news for you johnv it is not how he feels will compromise anything. the Lord is a jealous God and if you read the word and believe in it you would see your error. it is very dangerous to take a liberal position and call that as acceptable to God. the Lord has a narrow road and it only is by Jesus and it must not be a jesus of some liberal mindset, but of the bible.
     
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    I don't disagree with you. As I said, it's his cross to bear. When the time comes for him to leave his Islamic practices behind completely, then we will respond. But we wait for the Holy Spirit to call us in that area. Of course, if it were up to me, I'd drag him with me completely. But I'm constantly reminded of God's timing, not mine.
     
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    I was very concerned when I read this report 4 years ago about YWAM and the "Messianic Muslims" in the Charisma News Service (CNS). I work for Strang Communciations, who publishes the CNS, so I know some people that work with YWAM, this would explain the reports of major revivals they were experiencing with the muslim people, they were in effect saying, you can continue to be a muslim and practice all the tenets of Islam, and still call yourself a Christian, or "Messianic Muslim", as long as you believe that Jesus died for your sins.

    Can we do the same here in the United States with one of the fastest growing religions, Wicca? Can we start having "Messianic Wiccans", who are allowed to continue the practice of Wicca but be considered Christians as long as they believe that Jesus died for their sins?
     
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    I think that is the right approach, you can't beat him over the head with a Bible and drag him to heaven, but you can be a friend and pray that God will remove the blinders from his eyes, before it's too late.
     
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    I think my post has been paritally misunderstood by some.
    It's not a matter of believing all individuals in one set group are or aren't saved.
    It's a generalization. One may refuse to acknowledge denominations but they really do exist and each has a core belief system.

    Don't think of the questions in terms of "will I accept each person in this group".

    I posed the question because some people have been upset in the past that a Baptist would help out the Lutherans with their VBS program, or offer to help out another baptist church with decorations, or babysit for a Presby group, or be part of a group from another church that is doing something in the community. (ie attending a pro-life meeting in a e-free church, or helping a methodist church with a garage sale that is using the proceeds to help out with a need in the community) Or even letting children play together or becoming fast friends with a family from another denom.
    I don't agree with that. If one was helping out the mormons or another "false" group that would be understandable and right IMO, even if it was for a good cause in the community because usually association with them is seen as endorsements/acceptance of their beliefs.

    Gina
     
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    Total agreement here, Gina.

    Remeber, man makes denominations. God just makes Christians.

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     

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