If you look at the history of my posts, you will see I do write a lot about problems in our church. I'm sorry, but I am at a loss for what to do. My dh does not want to leave the church, despite there are many things going wrong. I am so stressed that I don't know how much more I can take. I have quit every job I was asked to do because of the stress. First, we had a scandal with our youth leader and his wife who were accused of child abuse (this was substantiated because they were required to take parenting classes, plus one of the county social workers goes to our church). Then, there was a big blow up with one of the men in the church wanting to keep others from serving in positions, so there was a meeting with all the men to deal with that. Then, we had several of the young families (about 5) leave the church due to one man who is teaching training union for children....and was talking to the children about all the problems in the church. The most recent thing that happened was a scandal with our building fund treasurer who was caught red handed stealing money from the account. She was also the SS treasurer and had been doing both jobs for 8-10 years. She got off because her brother-in-law is the head deacon. Oh, and by the way, we only have two deacons.....you do the math. So, we fast forward to last fall when I was on the nominating committee. The committee didn't want to set standards, they didn't want to define faithfulness (we have teachers who only show about 1/2 the time), they didn't want to hurt people's feelings (the treasurer has Huntington's disease and is about 70+ years old), and my favorite, "How can we require anyone to change when we've allowed it this long?" The committee was unevenly balanced with 2 against the preacher and 2 for the preacher and one coward (the head) who is afraid to make the tie breaking vote. I started having panic attacks, blood pressure issues, and then I found out I was going to have major surgery. I quit, and cited my health as the reason, but I wanted to tell the truth. The two people on the nominating committee who are against our pastor were going around behind the committee's back and trying to recruit who they wanted in important positions. They were spreading gossip and rumors, and they continued to do this even after I left. *sigh* Sorry this is so long! So, our treasurer ends up in the hospital, and is moved to a nursing home (where she is so much better off). At this point, we find out that no one is listed on the account besides her. The committee gets together and decides that they should elect someone to take the job temporarily. One man on the committee (he's against the preacher) elects himself. He gets two votes for, and one vote against. So, the church elects this man, but he only barely got 60% of the vote (he's required to have more than 50%). So, the next committee meeting comes, and this man now says he wants the job permanently. This raises a stink with the committee and the pastor says he's spoke with the deacons and they all agree that the person holding this position need to have 70% of the vote. This man tells our pastor that if there was a vote for his position, he would never get 70% now. So, the pastor gets in the pulpit that night and says he is calling for a vote, he doesn't want to be somewhere he is not wanted. (BTW, this is the condensed version :laugh: ) Now, fast forward to this week. Wednesday is our business meeting. Not only is our pastor coming up for a vote, but this man (who has caused this whole mess) is coming up for a vote as our treasurer. He has not been faithful, his wife goes to a different church on Wednesday nights with their son because "they have a great children's program". Guess who is in charge of our church's children program? This man! His class attendance has dropped 80% in the last two years, and he doesn't care. What do we do? We have enough information on this man, and can get witnesses to prove he is not worthy of the position. He wants our pastor gone. Our pastor is Independent, our church is SB. This man is against Ind. and has tried to convince others in our church that our pastor is trying to change us to Ind. The weird thing is this man went to an Ind. church prior to coming to our church. We have no constitution, we have no by-laws which pertain to this situation. We are supposed to use Robert's Rules of Order, but it doesn't get used appropriately. Dh will not walk away, but I need scriptural reference to explain why we should do what we should do - I just don't know what to do....does that make sense?:BangHead: If you don't know what to say...........just raying: for us!