What do you believe?

Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by Rev. G, Oct 10, 2002.

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What do you believe?

  1. 1644 - First London Confession

    39.4%
  2. 1689 - Second London Confession / Philadelphia Confession

    6.1%
  3. New Hampshire Confession

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  4. Baptist Faith & Message - 1925

    18.2%
  5. Baptist Faith & Message - 1963

    9.1%
  6. Baptist Faith & Message - 2000

    27.3%
  7. Other

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  1. Rev. G

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    Since I'm Southern Baptist, I know I will miss some confessions that should be listed. Pardon me beforehand.

    Which confession of faith do you believe most accurately reflects your own doctrinal views?
     
  2. Abiyah

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    It would not allow me to vote for csome reason;
    it said that I already had, but I had not. I would
    have voted "other."
     
  3. Squire Robertsson

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    I suppose the Confession/Statement of Faith that best represents my postions it the Statement of Faith of the Fundemental Baptist Fellowship International as found in FBFI's 2000 Constitution. The practical application of these positions are found in the Resolutions passed at the annual meetings. If you click on the View All button, you will get a menu going back to 1946.

    [ October 11, 2002, 03:07 PM: Message edited by: The Squire ]
     
  4. Rev. G

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    Abiyah:

    Could you please elaborate?

    Squire:

    Thanks for your post.
     
  5. Abiyah

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    Hello, Rev G. I have a real hard time with the
    creeds, because they are, in my opinion, human
    beings' attempts to try to state what our God
    already has said, as though He is unable to
    communicate His Word and needs a human
    interpreter. I also have a hard time with them
    because I see them coming out of a time when
    the church was corrupt.

    I have discussed the creeds here before, with
    people whom I really appreciate and respect
    and who find the creeds both beneficial and
    great, but I find I cannot share that opinion. 8o)

    The only creed used where I attend, and it is
    repeated weekly, is:
    "Hear, O Israel,
    Adonai is our God, Adonai alone!
    Blessed is the Name!
    The glory of His kingdom is for all eternity.
    And you shall love Adonai your God
    with all your heart and with all your soul
    and with all your might.
    These words which I command you today
    shall be on your heart . . .
    I am Adonai your God."
    (all taken from Deuteronomy and Numbers)

    I am comfortable taking, as my creed, these
    words, and I do not see how they can be
    faulted. 8o)

    [ October 11, 2002, 05:40 AM: Message edited by: Abiyah ]
     
  6. Rev. G

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    Thank you for your input Abiyah.
     
  7. Ben W

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    I accept the 11 doctrines of the Salvation Army originally penned by Gods General William Booth.

    1. We Believe that the scriptures of the Old and New Testaments were given by inspiration of God, and that they only constitute the Divine rule of Christian faith and practice.

    2. We Believe that there is only one God, who is infinatley perfect, the Creator, Preserver, and Governor of all things, and who is the only proper object of religious worship.

    3. We Believe that there are three persons in the Godhead-the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost undivided in essence and co-equal in power and glory.

    4. We Believe that in the person of Jesus Christ the Divine and human natures are united, so that He is truly and properly God and truly and properly man.

    5. We Believe that our first parents were created in a state of innocency, but by their disobediance they lost their purity and happiness, and that in consequence of their fall all men have become sinners, totally depraved and as such are justly exposed to the wrath of God.

    6. We Believe that the Lord Jesus Christ has by His suffering and death made an atonement for the whole world so that whosoever will may be saved.

    7. We Believe that repentance towards God, faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, and regeneration by the Holy Spirit, are neccesary to salvation.

    8. We Believe that we are justified by grace through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ and that he that believeth hath the witness in himself.

    9. We Believe that continuance in a state of salvation depends upon continued obediant faith in Christ.

    10. We Believe that it is the priviledge of all believers to be wholly sanctified, and that there whole spirit and soul and body may be preserved blameless unto the comming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    11. We Believe in the immortality of the soul; in the ressurection of the body; in the general judgement at the end of the world; in the eternal happiness of the righteous; and in the endless punishment of the wicked.
     
  8. Speedpass

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    I agree more with what is presented in the 2000 BFM than I do with how it is used.
     
  9. rlvaughn

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    I prefer the three older confessions that you mentioned - London 1644 & 1689, and New Hampshire. The New Hampshire is good, except that it is, IMO, deliberately vague in a few areas. The 1689/Philadelphia is very good, but too much Westminster for me. Therefore, I prefer the 1644 as the "most baptistic." Not being Southern Baptist, I have never read completely through the BF&M. I know there are a few things with which I would disagree, and there are probably many things with which I would agree.
     
  10. rsr

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    If you do this again, you might want to add the Standard Confession (1660), a real General Baptist Confession.
     
  11. Dr. Bob

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    Teaching at an ifb college, I was required to sign yearly fidelity to the New Hampshire Confession, with an addendum on the second coming and against ecumenicism. I could do it without reservation.

    I do like the London 44 better as a reformed baptist (pastoring in a free church) :rolleyes:
     

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