1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

What do you normally do when a Jehovah Witness knocks on your door?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by TaliOrlando, Mar 27, 2008.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Matt Black

    Matt Black Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2003
    Messages:
    11,548
    Likes Received:
    193
    Except that Gen 1:27 does say precisely that - that He is both male and female.
     
  2. standingfirminChrist

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2005
    Messages:
    9,454
    Likes Received:
    3
    No, Genesis does not say God is a female Matt. If it did, God would be referred to as she, her, or mother in other verses.
     
  3. Matt Black

    Matt Black Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2003
    Messages:
    11,548
    Likes Received:
    193
    "He created them in HIs image - male and female He created them". It says what it says. Case closed.
     
  4. standingfirminChrist

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2005
    Messages:
    9,454
    Likes Received:
    3
    It does say what it says, but you are mis-interpreting it. Case closed.

    They were created in His spiritual image. It has nothing to do with their being male or female.
     
    #284 standingfirminChrist, Apr 9, 2008
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2008
  5. Matt Black

    Matt Black Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2003
    Messages:
    11,548
    Likes Received:
    193
    The text doesn't say what you want it to say. It says what it says. It mentions nothing about the image being spiritual, as you would have it, but does mention the image being one of male and female.
     
  6. standingfirminChrist

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2005
    Messages:
    9,454
    Likes Received:
    3
    One cannot take one verse and make a proof text from it when other verses show the verse shows something else.

    John 4 states God is a spirit. That is the image of God... spirit. Neither male (Numbers 23:19), nor female (God is not referred to as she, her or mother).

    God is not male and female, Matt. He is not a hermaphrodite.
     
  7. Matt Black

    Matt Black Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2003
    Messages:
    11,548
    Likes Received:
    193
    In what way am I proof-texting and you not?

    If God is just spirit, shame no-one told Jesus that...

    [ETA - for Gen 1:27 to mean what you want it to, it would mean that God created Adam and Eve as purely spiritual beings. Clearly that's not the case.]
     
    #287 Matt Black, Apr 9, 2008
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 9, 2008
  8. standingfirminChrist

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2005
    Messages:
    9,454
    Likes Received:
    3
    Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

    Jesus became man when He came to earth, Matt. He was not man before that.

    You do have a hard time understanding the Scripture, don't you?
     
  9. Matt Black

    Matt Black Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2003
    Messages:
    11,548
    Likes Received:
    193
    The Incarnation demonstrates that God is not exclusively spiritual. You seem to be propounding an heretical form of neo-docetism in denying this foundational Christian Truth. It seems that you are the one having the hard time understanding basic Christian doctrine and the plain words of Scripture
     
  10. standingfirminChrist

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2005
    Messages:
    9,454
    Likes Received:
    3
    John chapter 1 states that the Word became flesh, not that He always was. When God sent His Son, God prepared Him a body (Hebrews 10).

    If you rightly divide the Word of truth, you would not have such a difficult time interpreting it, Matt.
     
  11. Matt Black

    Matt Black Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2003
    Messages:
    11,548
    Likes Received:
    193
    I repeat: for Gen 1:27 to mean what you want it to, it would mean that God created Adam and Eve as purely spiritual beings. Clearly that's not the case.
     
  12. Jon-Marc

    Jon-Marc New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2007
    Messages:
    2,752
    Likes Received:
    0
    I always tell JW's to take their heresies somewhere else.
     
  13. standingfirminChrist

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2005
    Messages:
    9,454
    Likes Received:
    3
    And I repeat. God is not female.
     
  14. Matt Black

    Matt Black Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2003
    Messages:
    11,548
    Likes Received:
    193
    So Gen 1:27 doesn't say. I'm now going to exit this sola Scriptura dialogue of the deaf.
     
  15. standingfirminChrist

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2005
    Messages:
    9,454
    Likes Received:
    3
    Hearing comes by the Word of God. Hope ya get those ears cleaned out.
     
  16. DHK

    DHK <b>Moderator</b>

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2000
    Messages:
    37,982
    Likes Received:
    137
    Matt, why have you brought this thread back on this track, wildly off topic, having nothing to do with the OP?
    To answer your question, however, it ought to be plain to the average reader that God is spirit. He has no physical form, no sex. To be made in the image and likeness of God has nothing to do with gender. God is not a physical being. It has to do with the attributes of God, many of which are expressed in the fruit of the Spirit in Gal.5:22,23

    Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

    It has to do with being conformed to the image of Christ.

    It has to do with man himself being a tri-partite being: body, soul and spirit.

    It has to do with the fact that man was given the ability to think, reason, make moral decisions, which sets him apart from all animals.

    In those ways man is made in the image and likeness of God. In those ways both man and women are able to strive to be more like God. There is not one aspect of anything sexual, anything feminine about God.

    Now tell me: What feminine traits did Jesus Christ have?
     
  17. Agnus_Dei

    Agnus_Dei New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2006
    Messages:
    1,399
    Likes Received:
    0
    LOL, DHK, you’re a moderator here on the BB right? Isn’t it YOUR job to keep this and other threads on track?

    You ask Matt why “he” brought the thread “wildly off topic” and you turn around and ask him a question that doesn’t even have anything to do with the OP.

    InXC
    -
     
  18. DHK

    DHK <b>Moderator</b>

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2000
    Messages:
    37,982
    Likes Received:
    137
    You are right. But this thread has run its course, and it is now 30 pages long and is time to be closed. Perhaps that is best solution. Then Matt can start his own thread.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Loading...