What do you really believe?

Discussion in 'All Other Discussions' started by tonytony, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. tonytony

    tonytony
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2007
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Philosophical moralist call themselves Christians.
    At the same time your an outcast if you preach a heaven or hell message on
    obeying 1 Peter 3:3.
    Baptism is a philosophical message and optional duty if we leave it up to the big shots today.
    Saying the Sabbath teaching is a heaven or hell message to obey Hebrews 4; that really will make you a legalistic Jew today.
    Saying it's heaven or hell if you divorce and remarry others ; will make you an outcast even if you put Romans 7:2-3 on the table.
    Who agreeing with the bible when it makes you an odd ball and outcast to?
    Leave it up to the big shots abstaining from fornicating and drinking makes you a believer but unbelievers pass that saint test.
    Giving up judging and hating they say makes you a real Christian but unbelievers pass that saint test as well.
    They say if you give up smoking and cussing and speak in tongues your really a Christian but unbelievers pass that saint test too.
    They figure if you have a bus load of people into a meeting place and they come out every week to worship then your really a Christian too but the truth is unbelievers pass that saint test.
    They figure if you got a book writing testimony and you do gifts of the Spirit like miracles and prophecy then your really a Christian by that time.
    Truth is unbelievers pass that saint test too.
    Who really a Christian if we get into it with jewelry, modest apparel, and
    unworldy hygiene, etc.
    1 Peter 3:3 as before.
    Who really a Christian for unity God's way?
    Any real bible believers in Amos 3:3?
    Never mind a big shot, what are you?
     
  2. annsni

    annsni
    Expand Collapse
    Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    20,193
    Likes Received:
    374
    Huh??????????
     
  3. donnA

    donnA
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2000
    Messages:
    23,354
    Likes Received:
    0
    what was that?
     
  4. Amy.G

    Amy.G
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2006
    Messages:
    13,103
    Likes Received:
    0
    Just check his past posting......................[​IMG]
     
  5. annsni

    annsni
    Expand Collapse
    Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    20,193
    Likes Received:
    374
    I was JUST going to say the same thing.

    :wavey:
     
  6. Jim1999

    Jim1999
    Expand Collapse
    <img src =/Jim1999.jpg>

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2002
    Messages:
    15,460
    Likes Received:
    0
    Don't any of you read Shakespeare???

    Much ado about nothing!

    Wakey, wakey!

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  7. Ed Edwards

    Ed Edwards
    Expand Collapse
    <img src=/Ed.gif>

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2002
    Messages:
    15,715
    Likes Received:
    0
    Amen, Elder Brother Ed Edwards -- Preach it! :thumbs:
     
  8. donnA

    donnA
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2000
    Messages:
    23,354
    Likes Received:
    0
    ah, makes more sense now, the usual babble.
     
  9. Salty

    Salty
    Expand Collapse
    20,000 Posts Club
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    22,127
    Likes Received:
    221
    Tonys says his denomination is Christian. I wonder if that means he is Church Christ?
     
  10. tonytony

    tonytony
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2007
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    How real is your Christian faith ?

    Well critics will say this is a judgmental question that's none of my
    business.
    At the same time they'll say this is being negative and starting a fight
    like a bully.
    Unless it's optional to obey Amos 3:3 then God said to find out.
    Who agree with God that obeying 1 Peter 3:3 is a heaven or hell message?
    I know we been raised to agree with man so long that we forget to agree with God if we not careful.
    No wonder Romans 2 or 3 says let God be true and every man a lier.
    Who in agreement with God that 1 Peter 3:3 is a heaven or hell message?
    Agreeing with God puts you in possible conflict with philosophical moralism of today.
    We been told that weddings of today are morally acceptable just as long as your either never married, divorced, seperated or widowed.
    We been told that it's professional to exchange rings and have expensive attire.
    Especially if a man got a woman into expensive wedding arrangements and you got a couple with an anniversary year in marriage due soon.
    A man's woman really on the geek for another ring on another finger.
    Holiness with 1 Peter 3:3 is thrown out the window for a wisdom of man tradition for years, decades and even centuries now.
    Holiness with Romans 7:2-3 is left up to the big shots and probably disregarded anyway.
    Who standing in the gap for God like Ezekiel when it makes you an odd ball
    and outcast to call Romans 7:2-3 a heaven or hell message?
    Who standing in the gap for God like Ezekiel when it makes you an odd ball and outcast to call 1 Peter 3:3 a heaven or hell message to mess with ?
    Are you really standing in the gap for holiness or are you a passive bystander leaving it up to the big shots to be hungry for unity God's way?
    Who really into Christian unity when philosophical unity is the largest religion and heresy in the world today?
    It's not a 1 chance in a million about agreeing with Tony or anybody else.
    Only about agreeing with God!!!
    Who calling Romans 2 or 3 a heaven or hell message on agreeing with God?
    I know you'll say judging is a heaven or hell message but who calling agreeing with God a heaven or hell message concerning any bible verse?
    Who agree with God that all scripture is for doctrine, reproof, etc. ?
    Who really agree with 2 Timothy 3:16?
    Who calling water baptism a heaven or hell message?
    Who agreeing with God in John 3:5?
    That sound tripped here out but so called baptist flunk this God agreement test.
    Who really in agreement with God in Mark 16:16?
    Normally the big shots overlook the "and" meaning more than 1 according to our understanding of English grammar.
    It's not about ignorance as much as it is unbelief if the truth be really told.
    Ignorance can be cured but unbelief is what it is.
    Even then Paul had something to say about ignorance with people that are willingly ignorant.
    He said let them be ignorant. Coming from 1 Corinthians 14:38.
    At the same time he preached a mercy message and gave folks three strikes if they messing around with ignorance a while on something.
    Coming from Titus 3:10.
    Don't get me wrong the apostles asked for an increase in faith before.
    Coming from Luke 17:5.
    This don't mean they didn't have any they just sought for more faith cause their fill up station with faith was running low.
    No different then when you put gas in your automobile.
    That's a weakness we can mess with and bare with okay.
    On the other hand we got boundaries with this faith thing with people.
    Coming from Romans 14:1.
    Even Jesus honored mustard seed faith to allow you to be a recipient of a blessing. We all know that.
    At the same time too he rebuked little faith before and he's certainly an encourager of a believer developing great faith.
    There's certainly a difference between a brother or sister weak in faith and one flat out despising the bible for what it's saying something anywhere.
    Again Romans 14:1.
    Romans 14:1 has bible harmony with Titus 3:10 and 2 Corinthians 11:4.
    Even if we messing with 1 Peter 3:3 and Romans 7:2-3.
    God put philosophical moralism out the church if it conflicts the bible anywhere.
    He did this when he put 2 Timothy 3:16 in the bible.
    Philosophical moralist still have to deal with 1 Peter 3:3 as a heaven or hell
    message if they agreeing with God.
    The same is true if we talking about Mark 16:16 and Romans 7:2-3.
    It coming down to whether we in agreement with God on all the book or not.
    How real do we have unity like Amos 3:3 preaches?
    How real do we have unity like 2 Corinthians 6:14-17 preaches?
    Who agreeing with God that unity is a heaven or hell message today?
    Who really agreeing with God in Psalms 133:1 ?
    We know about folks agreeing with God on praising him with music and social meetings.
    We know folks agreeing with God that we shouldn't hate and judge nor drink and fornicate, etc.
    Who the odd ball when agreeing with God makes you an outcast
    to say the Sabbath teaching is a heaven or hell message today?
    Who really agreeing with God in Hebrews 4?
    Who reallly operating in the righteousness of God on all the book?
    Who know the righteous of man is like filthy rags?
    Who really in agreement with God in Romans 10:2-3?
    Who really in agreement with God in Isaiah 64:6?
    Who really buried a lot of their philsophical moralism in order to have the moralism of God?
    Again who really agree with God in Romans 10:2-3?
    No wonder Jeremiah 17:9 in the book !!!
    Our heart is dangerous to our soul cause we're flooded with a lot of philosophical moralism that's extremely dangerous like dynamite is!!!
    No wonder David preached Psalms 119:105.
    No bible moralism and a believer is like a man without a compass to lead him the right way to go.
    We don't know the way to holiness even despite the big shots like Socrates and Plato that are suppose to be men of wisdom in the world.
    With the bible we got a compass where we know where we're going all the time.
    The enemy has lied to long and said that some bible issues can be man intrepreted by common sense only.
    I rebuke that lie in the name of Jesus.
    I rebuke the lier with John 8:44.
    No truth in the wisdom of man alone.
    Any wisdom of man come from above anyway.
    Coming from James 1:17.
    Solomon got an Amen to that!!
    We wasn't a big shot with wisdom until he fiirst got from God and asked for it.
    Well I done preached the devil mad to death!!!
    Amen somebody!!!
     
  11. donnA

    donnA
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2000
    Messages:
    23,354
    Likes Received:
    0
    And the alternative to never married, divorced, widowed is multiple marriages. Which is adultery. So just what is it your preaching here.

    I highly doubt it since no one can understand you in the first place, there'd be no reason for the devil to get mad at anything, you've done it just the way he likes it, unintelligible.
     
  12. Ed Edwards

    Ed Edwards
    Expand Collapse
    <img src=/Ed.gif>

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2002
    Messages:
    15,715
    Likes Received:
    0
     
    #12 Ed Edwards, Oct 22, 2008
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 22, 2008
  13. Ed Edwards

    Ed Edwards
    Expand Collapse
    <img src=/Ed.gif>

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2002
    Messages:
    15,715
    Likes Received:
    0
    Amen, Sister donnA - you are RIGHT ON (the topic) :thumbs:

    The LORD does not send the equipped; the LORD equips the sent.
    I know every time the Lord sent me, He had already equipped me.
    Here is a short record of my calls:

    ------------
    2 Peter 1:10 (KJV1611 Edition):
    Wherefore, the rather, brethren,
    giue diligence to make your calling and election sure:
    for if ye doe these things, ye shall neuer fall.

    I'm pretty sure that 'calling' here is one's
    calling TO CHRIST. But I guess it could
    mean one's calling to ministry. I personally believe that
    God calls each Christian to serve Him and others
    in ministry
    .

    I know I've heard "how can I be called by God?
    I'm busy taking care of four children".
    Yes, Mam, sounds like the Lord has called you
    to spend some 30 years (probably much longer)
    ministry of raising children in the nurture of the Lord.

    Short history of God's Callings on Ed:

    1952 - Called to salvation Rich & Full
    --- (It is all about JESUS!)

    1958 - Called to teach Bible


    1967 - Called to the special witness of
    harvesting people for Messiah Jesus whom
    others have planted (Messiah Yeshua gives the growth
    and does the harvesting)

    1972 - Called to special ministry
    of EDification to those
    who are called to the pastoral ministry

    1975 - Called to the Deacon Ministry

    1984 - Called to special on-line ministry
    of EDification to those
    who are called to God's ministry

    (I note I never got uncalled -- maybe
    if the Lord Taries I'll get called home
    which will uncall me from the other calls??)

    ------------

    Lord bless those who post on this Topic. Give your best blessing to them, their family, and their ministries. AMEN!
     
  14. donnA

    donnA
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2000
    Messages:
    23,354
    Likes Received:
    0
    AMEN! :applause:
     
  15. tonytony

    tonytony
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2007
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    You say you agree with God with the preaching of Paul in Romans 7:2-3?
    Yet you say the devil not mad at this kind of preaching with a heaven or
    hell message today.

    Where you know people that really agree with God on the preaching of
    Peter and Paul good ?

    Who you know telling members to take their jewelry off if they going to heaven?

    Who you know telling folks to be in only one marriage if they divorced and they plan to go to heaven?

    Who you know telling folks to obey the Sabbath teaching if they going to heaven?

    Where you find real unity like this to obey Amos 3:3?

    What writer said it's not my business to know if somebody really a Christian bible believer or not? It sure wasn't Amos 3:3!!! Sure wasn't 2 Corinthians 6:14-17!!!
    It sure wasn't Psalms 133:1 !!!!

    My bible says if the blind lead the blind both fall in the ditch. You a sheep of
    God hearing his voice or you into Unity God's way?

    The devil lied to you and said it's judgemental to know who you yoked with or not? How real is your Christian faith on unity and equal yokes mentioned in the
    bible?

    You phony or really into equal yokes with God's sheep only like God said
    in 2 Corinthians 6:14-17?

    You philosophical only or you really a saint ???

    You more then peaceful and nonjudgemental or you
    really a genuine wheat saint?

    It take guts to do unity God's way cause it makes you an outcast and
    legalistic Jew.
    Where the genuine folks on the controversy bible issues today?
    They few that's for sure.
    Unity God's way is sure the narrow way today!!!
    You really know what time it is or you phony?




     
  16. rbell

    rbell
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2006
    Messages:
    11,103
    Likes Received:
    0
    SOURCE for remedial grammar help...
     
  17. Ed Edwards

    Ed Edwards
    Expand Collapse
    <img src=/Ed.gif>

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2002
    Messages:
    15,715
    Likes Received:
    0
    // Who you know telling folks to be in only one marriage if they divorced and they plan to go to heaven? //

    I plan on going to heaven. I am 65 years old.
    I was married to wife number one on 24 Aug 1963.
    I was unmarried to wife number one on 5 Dec 1999.
    (the story can probably be found on-line somewhere)
    I was married to wife number two on 19 Jan 2002.

    Your turn, I'm listening*.
    You're time to talk, I'm listening*.

    *note, 'talk' and 'listening' in this context is a metaphor for 'writing posts' and 'reading posts'.

    My best friend about 1996 was married to the best freind of my wife (#1 wife). Some one told him he couldn't go to heaven married to his wife #2. So He left (after 25 years & one child) wife #2 and went to wife #1. Wife #1 was living with a pretend husband #2 who had been her son-in-law (you know, married to her daughter). But my friend chased the former son-in-law and live-in husband off and remaried wife #1. Then the former son-in-law and live-in husband moved next door to my Mother & we found out all the details.

    Now which one of my ex-best friend or me is WRONG about marriage?

    I have both gold and silver in my teeth, I'm probably going to hell because of that, eh?

    If you use mouth wash to freshen your breath - what scripture justifies that?
    If you DO NOT use mouth wash to freshen your breath - what scripture do you use to justify offending others?
     
  18. donnA

    donnA
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2000
    Messages:
    23,354
    Likes Received:
    0
    I wonder if the op talks like this in real life? I also wonder why he can't just plain talk like everyone else, instead of rhymns and riddles.
     

Share This Page

Loading...