What do you think of Bush Now

Most other presidents :tongue3:

 

More likely a reference to a fellow liberal of yours - Lyndon Baines Johnson.

 

That's the way that liberals generally speak. It's all about their feelings. Not facts, just their feelings. That's why liberals promote government solutions that never solve the problems but the liberals feel good about themselves even though the government programs are a public policy disaster.

 

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Jeremiah 17:9 ​

 

Apparently a large number of Muslims believe murdering innocent people is OK. Oops, we're not supposed to demonize a group of people, are we? But again, it appears acceptable to demonize a man.

 

How do you know? The military doesn't track civilian deaths.

But it's true.

It's not disgusting in the way you mean. It also is not an accusation about the soldiers but about Bush's war.

One fact does not cancel another.

It's not disrespecting the military to point out that the "collateral damage" in Iraq has exceeded the deliberate deaths of 9/11 or to point out that Iraq had nothing to do with that attack.

 

Get your insults in straight before you use them! :tongue3: :laugh:

If you check the History forum, and look under the "Worse Presidents" thread, you will see that I ranked LBJ as one of the worse presidents. Just because I am a democrat doesn't mean that I fall lock-step in with every democratic president, after all, I'm not a republican, why should I act like one! :tongue3:

 

You and Daisy are among the honorable liberals I am acquainted with.

 

When Jackson killed someone, he tended to handle the job by himself. He got more than one enemy in duels, and once, when Calhoun threatened "nullification", vowed to hang him from a lampost if he tried it.

And probably would have done it.

Bush would wet his pants if he was confronted by someone like Jackson.

 

Thank you Ken. :thumbsup:

 

Jackson ---- has he been unjustly aligned for the reassignment (ahem) of vast peoples to new territories? I could have sworn that a few died in those little debaucles . . .

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by LadyEagle
You forgot one little point in your rant - the majority of Arabic people (Iraqis) who have died in Iraq since the US entered Iraq, have been killed by other Arabs/Muslims.

I read the papers & listen to the news every day, for one thing. The number of Iraqis killed by insurgents, be they foreign fighters, Sunni, or Shia, fills the headlines each day. It has nothing to do with the military tracking civilian deaths & I didn't imply that it did. A senior Iraqi official estimates 150,000 Iraqis have been killed by insurgents in the past 3-1/2 years.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/09/europe/EU_GEN_Austria_Iraqis_Killed.php

The point I made about Muslims killing Iraqis is well documented in many news sources besides this one, enough so, that reasonable people would consider it a fact - a fact, that has nothing to do with the US military keeping track of Iraqi civilian deaths.

 

During the 3years & 7months of the Iraq thing,
the USofA has, on the average, killed 4,000 per day of
it's own unwanted children.

4,000 times 30 times 43 = over 5 million.

I'm concerned 30 times more about these children
of the USofA dying than about the Iraqi deaths
in the same period.

 

It is disrespecting the military as well as being a lie to imply that all the civilian deaths in Iraq are a result of collateral damage.

Also, the statement ""not half as many of Americans have died over their as innocent people have" implies that all the Iraqi people who have died are innocent people killed by Americans who are not innocent. It also sounds to me, by the way this statement is worded that someone wishes more Americans had died instead of the so-called "innocent" people.

Again, before the Bush hatred completely clouds reason, lets address how many "innocent" people Saddam killed, how many mass graves have been found and are still being found in Iraq, how many good deeds our Military have done and are doing over there, despite whether or not it was a mistake to go to Iraq. Let's be truthful here. I do realize when a person hates America, Bush, and the US military and believes America is the great satan which is part of islamic anti-American propaganda, it is really hard to keep to the facts in a debate about Iraq. But let's try to stick to the facts instead of blaming everything on Bush and the US Military.

I personally believe it was a mistake to go to Iraq. We tried to do something noble (to free people from Saddam's tyranny and executions - did everyone forget about the human meat grinders?). But in hindsight, I believe it was a mistake because the Iraqi people have proven they don't deserve freedom paid for by the blood of Americans and the treasure of American taxpayers. We are not the world police, after all. Let's pull out and let the Sunnis and Shia destroy each other before another American life is lost.

 

But people like Glenn Beck say that to 'cut & run' now would a
blot on America's history worse than Slavery.

Even yet in Iraq, we can snatch defeat from the very jaws
of Victory

 

As would most of us, no doubt.

 

Amen to that, the WORST of the worst.

 

Good point, Ed.

 

Just one example of our evil American troops killing innocent civilians in Iraq:

http://health.dailynewscentral.com/content/view/0001293/36/