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What do you think of Peter Ruckman?

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Joe Turner, Oct 28, 2002.

  1. swordsman

    swordsman New Member

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    Peter Ruckman has the most complete knowledge of the Bible of anyone I have read and I have read from many,many different authors. He I believe is mistaken on some things but who is not? His language is to the point and sometimes harsh. If he feels you are a leader(not a layman) and you undermine the Word of God he shows no mercy and will rebuke you as anyone that stands for the Word should. I have learned very much from his commentaries, I agree with his dispensational views which I held before ever reading one of his books and I now know the people and schools to stay away from, that correct the Word of God.
    Many not all commentaries today spew out the same weak theology and drivel that help keep the child of God weak in the knowledge and right division of the Word. Ruckman goes deep and true.
    Every Christian that I know that has a strong knowledge of the Bible and believes in living a holy separated life has read extensively of Ruckmans works.

    [ October 29, 2002, 06:07 PM: Message edited by: swordsman ]
     
  2. Pastor Larry

    Pastor Larry <b>Moderator</b>
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    You should get out more, meet some more people, make some more friends.
     
  3. BrianT

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    You obviously have very limited contact with the body of Christ in general. 95% of Christians have never even heard of him, and 95% of those who have, think he's a loon. And I think I'm probably being generous with both estimates.
     
  4. Don

    Don Well-Known Member
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    Brian, you set yourself up with that one. [​IMG]

    The obvious response is: Then that 95% doesn't have strong Bible knowledge and aren't living a holy, separated life....

    [​IMG]
     
  5. BrianT

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    Yes, yes. Narrow is the road, and Ruckman Street is its name.... [​IMG]
     
  6. swordsman

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    You obviously have very limited contact with the body of Christ in general. 95% of Christians have never even heard of him, and 95% of those who have, think he's a loon. And I think I'm probably being generous with both estimates.</font>[/QUOTE]Brian, Pastor Larry, I do thank you both for the concern over the quanity and quality of my friends [​IMG] I do have many Baptist "friends" that have never heard of Ruckman, unfortunately aside from the fact that they attend church faithfully, you would never know that they were christians.
    What do you find to be the traits of one that reads Ruckman(aside from the KJV stance)verses one that does not?
    I do appreciate your replies and take it in the spirit given. [​IMG]

    [ October 29, 2002, 10:20 PM: Message edited by: swordsman ]
     
  7. Siegfried

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    Honestly? Irrationality, closed-mindedness, and tendency to a hot temper. But mostly irrationality.

    Nothing personal. Just answering the question from my experience.
     
  8. Pastor Larry

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    They tend to be very arrogant, have little familiarity with the facts, have great zeal but little knowledge. They are unable to entertain any ideas that have not come from Ruckman. They are generally unable to think through issues critically. They are typically rabble rousing types of personalities, with little grace manifest in their speech. Hoewever, there are some exceptions that I have met or corresponded with.
     
  9. Ransom

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    swordsman asked:

    What do you find to be the traits of one that reads Ruckman(aside from the KJV stance)verses one that does not?

    The former group tend to have a much higher concentration of know-nothing blowhards than the latter group.
     
  10. Bartholomew

    Bartholomew New Member

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    Hi,

    I've bee reading the posts on here, and there seem to be some very hypocritical attitudes flying around. It seems it is wrong for Peter Ruckman to use strong language against those whom he sees as attacking the word of God; but it's somehow all right for everyone else to use strong language against him! You may not like what Peter Ruckman says, or how he says it, but don't you think the horrible attitude so many of you seem to have towards him makes you as bad as (if not worse than) him?

    Now I'm not saying I agree with everything he says, or how he says it (I don't), but like someone on the previous Ruckman thread pointed out - how many other 81-year-olds are out soul-winning? (I got that info from the previous thread - I'm assuming it's true.) The way you talk about him you'd think he was a liberal who embraced homosexuality, abortion and women pastors. Wait, no... I think if he was one of those, he'd probably get much better treatment on here! :(

    Your friend and brother,

    Bartholomew
     
  11. Terry_Herrington

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    Well said Bartholomew! [​IMG]
     
  12. Joe Turner

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    Hi Don! Just go to Groups@AOL and go to the KJV1611 Bible Believers group. The rest should be self explanatory. The only thing is that the server is always going down and so we have trouble trying to post. But welcome anyway [​IMG]
     
  13. Joe Turner

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    I would like to commend Bartholomew for the excellent post! [​IMG] For those of you that think that Ruckmans views (some of them at least) are strange, consider that he was not the first to hold them. There were "Ruckmanites" long before Peter Ruckman was ever born. He is just another Bible believer amoung many who take a stand for the word of God. I went to Treasure Valley Baptist Church in Meridian, Idaho and heard Brother Ruckman preach. He asked the people in the congregation to raise their hands if they believed the KJV was the word of God before they had ever heard of Pete Ruckman. Three quarters of the people raised their hands, including yours truly [​IMG] In fact, rumor has it that Dr. Ruckman is actually a Turnerite [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  14. Bro. Curtis

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    I know a lot of folks here don't like David Cloud, but he has an excellent page exposing Ruckman's heretical teachings. I strongly suggest reading it before you decide if Ruckman is a man you want to follow. The article is very well researched, Brother Cloud has done his homework.

    http://www.wayoflife.org/articles/ruckman.htm
     
  15. Don

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    Question, Joe Turner: If you don't have AOL, how do you get to the Groups section?

    (I personally wouldn't use AOL unless you paid me $22 a month to use it)
     
  16. Bartholomew

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    Thanks Joe.

    I actually disagree with a lot of the teachings of Peter Ruckman, but then I disagree with a lot of the teachings of most people!!! However, it seems rather unfair the way so many seem to want to attack him. How many other 81-year-olds are out winning souls for God?

    Your friend and brother,

    Bartholomew
     
  17. Siegfried

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    I'm not sure "soul-winning" is the ultimate test of obedience.

    Matthew 7:22-23
     
  18. BrianT

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  19. Pastor Larry

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    Were you of the opinion that some here were arguing that the KJV is not the word of God?? All of us believe that the KJV is the Word of God whether or not we ahve heard of Peter Ruckman. That however, is not the issue. The issue is that the KJV is clearly not the only Word of God and that is where Ruckman contradicts the KJV and all other faithful translations of Scripture.

    This is so often a point that people of your persuasion fail to realize, namely that we are not suggesting that the KJV is not the Word of God. Let me emphasize: We believe that the KJV is the Word of God. Hopefully that will put to rest the false accusations that some make.
     
  20. Siegfried

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    Wishful thinking.
     
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