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What do you think the Kenosis Entailed?

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Dr. Bob, Oct 3, 2004.

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  1. Dr. Bob

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    Ekenosin (aorist of kenosis) is translated "no reputation". Hence the title of the theological discussion.

    When God the Son became flesh, what happened to his "godness", the attributes of "godness", the actions of "godness".

    I am working on line with a high schooler and trying to help her understand. I KNOW the theology (of course) but would appreciate any insights on how to communicate this.

    Thanks.
     
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    see if what I just wrote on the other one helps.
     
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    Pretending to talk to a high schooler, I might say this:
    By incarnating, Jesus gave up his glory and humbled himself to be born as a baby, then grow into a man. For God the Son to become just like other men (though sinless) was to give up his reputation and glory as God (the Son) in heaven.
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    As far as whether Jesus gave up powers like omniscience, I am not sure. I tried to start a discussion on that here (moved from Other Religions forum) several weeks ago but it basically went nowhere.
     
    #3 Marcia, Oct 3, 2004
  4. Russ Kelly

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    Though knowing that He was fully God, I think that He willingly divested Himself and performed all of His miracles through perfect faith (which we do not have). In and of Himself, He could donothing withing the Father. Otherwise, Satan would yell "unfair." As the Goel, Jesus had dto succeed where Adam failed. As Israel personified, Jesus had to perfedtly keep the Law in order to fulfill its character.
    When tempted, Jesus coudl have used His own deity (which would have been unfair), or He could have relied on His perfect faith.
     
    #4 Russ Kelly, Oct 3, 2004
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