what do you think?

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  1. Vera Hammoudeh

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    Like to add this is part 2

    I would like to ask what do you think of the middle eastern people? I feel that for some reason people are looking at all the Arabic people as bad because of what happen on 9/11.

    So tell me your thoughts & opionions of this please.

    P.S I was told this would work better in the Debate Forums So here it is..
    By the way i am sorry i didn't get to reply to this thread before, But i was busy since i made this post with Moving & didn't have my internet hooked back up. So lets see where this goes to this time ok?

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  2. Vera Hammoudeh

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    [​IMG] Middle Eastern Types
    Good Evening All,
    My family and I had the opportunity to live in a low income apartment complex for about a year, our nextdoor neighbors were Jordanian and most everyone else was Somolie (both groups, Jordanian and Somolie were Muslim). My experience with the Jordanians was most awesome. Their kids were well disciplined, academically superior to most of their American counterparts. The dad was a PhD candidate at The Ohio State University and the wife was a Masters candidate at the same. The dad didn't trust me at first (this was after 9/11) and would avoid me. However, the kids and the mom was very nice to us. Our kids played together and I didn't worry one iota when my boy with their kids. Back to the dad. After a while, I decided to try to break the ice. During the winter, since he parked next to me I would clear off his car of snow when I would do my own --- little things like that. It took a few weeks of concentrated effort, but I was finally able to talk to him and have some really great conversations. Did I speak to him about Christ? No. He knew I was a Christian and I wanted to establish with him that I was a "normal" human being that happened to be American and friendly --- laying foundations. This was an effort because it seems that American Christians link American patriotism and Christianity as one and the same and I wanted to get across that Christianity transcends nationalistic culture and is about the human being rather than having a flag attached to the cross. For the most part, my experience with Middle Eastern Muslims has been a good one --- their just regular people with aspirations and goals for themselves and their families, just like us. If you have the opportunity, give Syriana a watch ---I believe that it accurately portrays the frustrations of the Middle East from their perspective.

    M

    I want to say that i agree with this reply i read on this post. This is the way i feel 100%.

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  3. Bro. Curtis

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    It was fed-up catholics who brought down the Catholic church. I'm waiting for fed-up Muslims to unite & be visibly fighting the extremist problem, that Islam obviously has.

    I don't see any reason to be nicer to people of mid-eastern descent, than any other race. That would mean I'm treating different races differently. I won't do it.

    But Muslims could earn more of my respect by taking a more up-front role in purging their religion of violence, if that is truly what they want.
     
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    The biggest reason for so many folks to have insecurities around muslims is there is little to no speaking out against terrorism from them. They arent seperating themselves. So it is hard to know who is for it and who isnt. Not every muslim is for terrorism. But there are so many that are, when those that arent dont speak out against it publically it doesnt make it obvious who is and who is not.
     
  5. Jim1999

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    Do you remember the author Salman Rushdie (I think I have his name right)? He tried writing a book about Islam and ended up with a death threat against him.........What about those who convert from Islam? They face death from their own families.......I think these actions speak for themselves about that religion.

    Cheers,

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    After 9-11, I wanted to nuke all the Muslims. I then met many Muslims and Mid-Easterners who changed my mind and had my eyes open to the kind of tyranny they were under with the Taliban and Saddam. I saw them for the first time as the oppressed of the 21st century who were being liberated by America. If you want to see the point of view of Mid Easterners without the liberal bias of hollywood, check out the movie, "Osama", which was written by an Afgan and made into a movie right after the fall of the Taliban. Right now, I want America to destroy the radical Islamic Terrorists and liberate the rest. The problem is two fold for me:

    1. Distinguishing the two: How do you distinguish who is really a terrorist marching in the streets of a tyrannical fear society against American infidels and who is just there out of fear of retribution?

    2. I have also notice, as Vera did in the first post, that many Mid-Easterners and Muslims are very educated and seem to just want the American Dream. But, then again, I remember seeing interviews of folks who knew the terrorists of 9-11 and in England who said the same thing in shock about these people they thought they knew.

    As much as I want to accept them and act like there is no fear of them in my life and mind, the reality is that there is still a lack of trust there. How do we know who are truly friends and who really want to kill us. I pray for God to give us wisdom to know the difference and the courage to trust again.

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  7. Not_hard_to_find

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    I agree -- having worked with Muslims in Kuwait and Bahrain, as well as training with a group of Indonesians that were mostly Muslim. We had common corporate goals and personal goals. I enjoyed their company and we all worked well together.

    The secret is the common goal part. Without that even two people of the same (race, religion, nationality, sex -- whatever!) will disagree and perhaps fight to the death. Keep our common goals of peace, health and prosperity and not even differences of religion, race or nationality will keep us asunder.
     
  8. The Galatian

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    duplicate, please delete.
     
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  9. The Galatian

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    Between 1990 and 2001, the number of Roman Catholics in the US increased by about 10.4%. Do you know how it went for your particular denomination?

    Slightly more than half of all the Christians in the world are Roman Catholics.

    "Down" doesn't seem very appropriate in that context, does it?
     
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    I just pray that 90% of the Catholics will come to know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
     
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    It was a very interesting book. It was a long time ago, but if memory serves, it is a story about two men who fall out of an airplane, and the conversation they had on the way down.

    But remember, the RCC killed a few infidels in their time, as well. I'm glad that didn't stop good men like Martin Luther.
     
  12. Jim1999

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    If we are to be honest, evangelicals of the day, were not above putting to death a few people either...there were quite a few in England alone, not to mention New England. Calvin himself was guilty of acting in behalf of the state against those who disagreed with him.

    Seems to be the way of man, by times.

    Cheers,

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    Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


    I'll pray I have the faith to remember that verse, should the need arise.
     
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    We, as Catholics pray that 100% of Baptists come to know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.

    Standards, you know... :laugh:
     
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    Standards being what they are

    . . . at least you came close to claiming Christ as your Savior - I pray that you have come closer to that than you have in claiming the Church as your Savior . . .

    ;)
     

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