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You most certainly did and I proved it. You are lying.

 

No, I will do it in public because your post was public. You are judging me and I proved it. You need to own up to it. It's in black and white and you cannot deny it without being a liar or a fool.

 

Amy, even a slave can disobey his master. A slave can run away from his master.

Folks do not understand what is meant by being a slave to sin. It does not mean you are compelled to sin every moment, it means you are under the law, you are bound by the law, and you are bound by the sentence of disobeying the law, which is death. As long as you are under the law you are a slave to sin in this sense.

The moment you trust in Christ you die with him and are no longer bound or a slave to the law. You do not belong to sin anymore. It is as if your husband is dead and now you are free to remarry. You are now released from the law and under grace. Now you are a slave or bound to righteousness.

This is why Jesus said he that commits sin is a servant of sin. The moment a person sins, they become bound by sin, under the penalty or sentence of sin which is death.

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

The scriptures do not teach that we are compelled to sin. We can yield ourselves to commit sin, or we can yield ourselves to do righteousness.

If you yield yourself to commit sin, you become the servant to sin. You are now under it's bondage, and it's payment which is death. The bondage is death.

But the scriptures do not teach you must sin and have no control over your actions.

2 Chr 30:8 Now be ye not stiffnecked, as your fathers were, but yield yourselves unto the LORD, and enter into his sanctuary, which he hath sanctified for ever: and serve the LORD your God, that the fierceness of his wrath may turn away from you.

This command would be nonsensical if a man is utterly compelled by his nature to sin as Calvinism falsely teaches.

 

You are confusing the law with indwelling sin. There is nothing wrong with the law as it is good, holy and righteous. The problem is not in the law. Slavery to a good, holy and righteous law is not wrong. The problem is slavery to indwelling sin (Rom. 7:14-25) not the law. The law's condemnation is consequential to the real slavery problem to sin.

Right and wrong! Right you are no longer under the law's condemnation but that Law is now written upon a new heart within you (2 Cor. 3:3-6; Rom. 8:4) so that you "delight in the law of God after the inward man" (Rom. 7:21).

You do no belong to sin any more but that does not mean you cannot willing SERVE sin and that does not mean that sin has been removed from your person and has no more influence over you so that you do not struggle with sin any more. The Scriptures teach clearly we are in a war with sin within us (2 Cor. 10:5) so that we battle to bring "every thought" into submission to Christ and that the weapons of our warfare are not "carnal" as the carnal aspect of our nature is incapable of winning over indwelling sin (Rom. 7:18) even though we are willing to resist sin, our will is without power to overcome indwelling sin. That is why we must "walk in the Spirit." That is why God must work in "both to will and to do of His good pleasure"

He is speaking of the person who habitually makes sin his practice (present tense) rather than the saved man who makes resisting sin his habitual practice (Rom. 7:18). The man described in Romans 7:14-25 habitually resists sin but always fails in his resistance when that resistance is performed apart from dependence upon the power of the Indwelling Spirit. The Indwelling Spirit is God's provision in the child of God to win over indwelling sin.

Note the contrast - "obedience UNTO RIGHTEOUSNESS or "sin UNTO DEATH." He is describing the IMMEDIATE consequences of our actions. The term "death" means "separation." When a child of God chooses to sin, there is IMMEDIATE separation in FELLOWSHIP with God as sin IMMEDIATLEY breaks that fellowship. The term "death" also includes the IMMEDIATE consequences of unconfessed sin (conscience problems, loss of joy, loss of assurance, chastening; circumstantial negative consequences). Death is a factor in the life of every Christian as we struggle with the infuence of sin we PRESENTLY taste/experience both hell (James 3:14-16) and heaven (James 3:17) in direct response to how we respond to sin and righteousness.

The Scriptures do teach that our "flesh" or our "members" or "this body of death" is under the law of sin, compulsion of sin (Rom. 7:14-25) and that is precisely why we must resist indwelling sin not in the power of our own self (Rom. 7:18) which always is overcome by indwelling sin but in the power of the indwelling Spirit of God (Rom. 8:9-13).

The lost man "always resists" the Holy Spirit (Acts 7:51) and is willingly enslaved to sin (Rom. 8:7-8).

However, the saved man does not have to yeild to sin but can yeild to righteousness IF ye yeilds first to the indwelling Spirit of God or else he always will be overcome by the power of indwelling sin (Rom. 7:14-25) because in regard to his flesh, this body of death, the members, he is still "carnal" sold under sin (Rom. 7:14,18). Hence, he must operate not according to his "carnal" nature as the true believers in Corinth did (1 Cor. 3:1-3) but according to his "spiritual" nature under the leadership of the indwelling Spirit of God.

It is a false conclusion based upon false reasoning to assume that a child of God cannot be without personal ability to serve God but still responsible! This is precisely what Jesus meant when he said "without me ye CAN DO NOTHING" and yet they were held responsible for their obedience to God. This is what it means to be commanded to "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling" and yet only possible if "God worketh in you both to will and to do of His good pleasure." This is what it means in Romans 7:14-25 to be totally unable to personal overcome the power of indwelling sin and yet be responsible to do so because every child of God has also the indwelling presence and power of the Holy Spirit that they can "yeild" to by faith (Rom. 6; 8:9-13).

 

The bible states that the Holy Spirit comes to all believers and indwells/seals them, and that happens at the exact time they place faith in Christ and are saved by grace of God!

ONLY thing needed to do is for a sinner to receive jesus by faith!

And ONLY those saved by God will be able to then Obey God and resist the devil etc, as while yet sinners have no power nor inclination to really do either!

 

bible extremely clear that ALL who sin, and that would be ALL under the reign/domenion of Sin...

fallen sinful natures serve themselves, their very natures are to oppose God and attempts to rein in the flesh by keeping the law!

 

Sinners cannot chose in and by themselves to come to Chriost, much less to make a faith decision to accept him!

Cals hold that God gives His electfaith to believem Arms that He grants us all common grace enough to believe...

WHICH do you hold to?

 

If you resist the devil IN THE POWER OF THE SPIRIT the devil will flee from you but if YOU resist the devil he will trample all over you, eat you up and spit you out. Christians do not always walk in the Spirit as 1 Corinthians 3:1-3 proves. Christians do not always behave "spiritually" as 1 Corinthians 3:1-3 proves.


1 ¶ And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

Look at 1 Corinthians 1:2 and see who he is talking to:

2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

Jesus commanded his disciples to "WATCH and PRAYER" not just at some times but all the time. If you are not in a daily battle with sin it is because you have already been taken captive and simpy don't know it.

Sin is always at war "in your members" against you or so says James and Peter:


Jas 4:1 From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?

1Pe 2:11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;

There is no such thing as a cease fire in this life. The battle rages daily and if you don't think you need to both WATCH and PRAY every single day then you are either lost or taken captive as a child of God already.

Did you admit that children of God can do wrong and need to "stop doing it"?

Those James addressed had all kinds of sin problems just read the laundry list beginning in chapter one all the way to chapter five.

1. There were double minded among them - ch. 1
2. There were rich taking advantage of poorer brethren - ch. 2
3. There were those who couldn't control their tongue and were fighting with each other - chapter 3
4. There were those bickering and fighting among them - ch. 4
5. There were those sick because of unconfessed sin - ch. 5

You are wrong for the following immediate contextual reasons:

1. The flesh/body/members of the save man is still "carnal" - Rom. 7:14,18 and thus subject to dying and death.

2. The Unregenerate man does not "delight" in the law of God but is "not subject to the law of God and NEITHER INDEED CAN BE" - Rom.7:21; 8:7

3. The Unregenerate mind does not serve God - Rom. 7:25 but is at "enmity" with God - Rom. 8:7

4. Romans 7:14-25 is PRESENT TENSE whereas Romans 7:7-13 is past tense

5. Christ has not yet delivered any living Christian from "this body of death" and won't until death or resurrection/rapture - Rom. 7:24 - the only present deliverance is through the power of the indwelling Spirit.

6. To will to do "good" is not present within the unregenerated man - Rom. 7:18 because Jesus said "there is none good but one and that is God" and Paul said, there is NONE righteous NO, NOT ONE and there is NONE good, NO, NOT ONE - Rom. 3:10-11.

7. The immediate context or chapter seven is a further exposition of Romans 6 and the redeemed man in order to prove that he was not justified by law - Romans 7:1-13 or sanctified as a saved man by law - Rom. 7:14-25 but rather he was both justified by faith in Christ (Rom. 8:1-3) and sanctified as a child of God by the power of the Spirit of Christ (Rom. 8:4,9-13).

If you have no "war" waging within you then you are either lost or deceived because that was the experience of every child of God in the Scriptures except one - the Son of God.

 

GE:


The perfect Arminian 'explanation' of 'under grace free will'!

I do not say you have not received grace; but I do maintain you do not understand it, and, that you 'explain' it, hopelessly wrong.

Take this for example,

"The moment you trust in Christ you die with him and are no longer bound or a slave to the law. You do not belong to sin anymore. It is as if your husband is dead and now you are free to remarry. You are now released from the law and under grace. Now you are a slave or bound to righteousness."
Any other part of your post will do for the same reason.

First, you make man the First Mover, "The moment _you_ trust in Christ _you_ die with him".
But it is Christ who through "the Spirit of Christ" is the First Mover and "Author of faith" and trust;
"It is CHRIST WHO DIED" --- not you or I! If you or I are CHOSEN: OF GOD, it is written, "You are crucified IN AND WITH _Christ_"— Christ the Crucified— into HIS, death; and "You are CO-RAISED TOGETHER WITH _Christ_”— in Christ from HIS, death and grave.

Where you make man the active Subject of the death and resurrection required for his salvation, the Scriptures have God and Christ and the Holy Spirit the Active Subject of man's every PASSIVE undergoing of the course of grace.

 

the power can do NOTHING to save you in and by itself, for its faith mixed with hearing that provides us salvation!

Just listening and not believing/receiving keeps us lost in sin!

 

So why doesn't everyone who hears believe?

 

So really, faith does not come JUST by hearing, but by hearing, liking what they hear, and giving up sin.