What ever happened to Shepherd's Chapel/Arnold Murray??

Dr.Tim · Apr 2, 2005

I remember a few years ago when I was on BiBle Questions and Bible Answers on MSN Chat there was a group that was from Shepherd's Chapel and they had names like 777 and so forth....
i know the man is still on TV but seems less often than before.
Anybody know anything about this group?

tim

Marcia · Apr 2, 2005

He's still around. I have some friends who have been looking into his teachings, which are very bizarre. I saw one clip where he holds up what looks like a plastic thing and he said it was the footprint of an angel.

There's info on him on the CARM site:
http://www.carm.org/chapel/arnold_murray.htm

Let Us Reason also has an article on him:
http://www.letusreason.org/Poptea4.htm

Murray apparently promotes Christian Identity. I saw that on one of the sites above, but this site below has this:

http://cultlink.com/sentinel/murray.html
And from an earthly perspective his teachings promote bigotry against Jews, blacks and all non-Anglo-Saxon people.
He:
Denies the historic doctrine of the Trinity.
Believes that men were once gods who existed prior to living on the earth.
Teaches the divisive doctrine promoted by other cults that the Anglo-Saxons are the chosen race, and America and Great Britain are the lost tribes of the children of Israel.
Denies the existence of hell.
Claims the doctrine of the rapture is "cultic."
Bestows a special honor on himself, claiming to be God’s exclusive end time messenger for the world.
Falsely claims to have a doctorate degree from a properly accredited university or seminary.

But the core of his teaching centers around the sinister "serpent seed" doctrine that has been linked to various identity "Christian" and right-wing neo-nazi groups. What this doctrine teaches is that in the Garden of Eden, Eve’s sin was that of having literal sexual intercourse with the serpent, which resulted in the pregnancy that produced Cain; the devil’s literal offspring.

Murray says the descendants of this offspring are the "Kenites," a hybrid that include the Jews of today. These were the "Jews" who killed Christ, he has stated in his tape called "Grace: Baptism," adding that "if you have ever really believed that group was the chosen of God you were deceived by Satan!"

In the same tape Murray teaches that even among Christians the different races should have no fellowship.
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The guy is a cult leader and a racist. He has also made false prophecies.

This is really bad stuff.

Marcia · Apr 2, 2005

One more good link on Murray:

http://www.watchman.org/profile/murraypro.htm

Dr.Tim · Apr 2, 2005

thanks.. I knew of the Serpent Seed idea and had debated with some of his devout followers before. One of them sent a message to all on the board.. "Let's all remember, Tim's seminary is one of those that wouldnt let the cat out of the bag". She signed off after that and never answered my quesiton "What cat?"

She was black woman, and when I threw the bigoted beliefs into the debate, she said that she accepted being inferior (!!!).

Dan Todd · Apr 2, 2005

The old boy is alive and well - and is on a channel on my cable system - almost daily!

Be careful when listening to or reading his stuff. He throws in a little truth - but he also throws is error - making him (IMHO) very dangerous!

Dr.Tim · Apr 2, 2005

does he PREACH? or does he just teach?

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