what group best discribes you

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i fit in the calvinist group

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  1. massdak

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    another poll to see where you stand
     
  2. pinoybaptist

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    I answered false to all questions except question#6 the OSAS. What is a more conservative, more liberal or more moderate ?
    I hold to the Doctrines of Grace, or what is commonly labeled TULIP, but that's all that is Calvinistic in the Primitive Baptist Church, so I do not consider myself a Calvinist.
     
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    then you answered wrong on some
    if you ascribe to tulip, that would put you more so in the calvinist camp.
    so being that is, i will have to put you in the extreme liberal arminian universalist camp.
     
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    I put false on the OSAS position though I am a Calvinist. I believe the modern day definition of OSAS is misleading and gives a deficient definition of unconditional security of the believer. I prefer the term Perseverance or Preservation of the Saints rather than the OSAS view which leans towards antinominianism.
     
  5. pinoybaptist

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    by massdak:
    don't mind. I know whom I have believed, what I believe, and labels don't affect my eternal destiny. Ciao.
     
  6. Artimaeus

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    I'm not a Calvinist or an Armenian. I am a conservative, OSAS, who bleieves the Bible clearly teaches that not everyone goes to [​IMG]
    Some end up in [​IMG]
     
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    Interesting poll.
     
  8. Servent

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    I to believe in OSAS Rom 10:9 Say's If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead you will be saved.
    The problem is that to many people confess but dont turely believe.
     
  9. Bro. James Reed

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    That's the first time I've heard the PB position described as liberal.

    I have to agree with my brother pinoybaptist on this one. I voted false on all except OSAS. Although, the way most people believe OSAS would put me at odds against them since I believe my salvation was done before I was even born. There was no time in my life when I was not saved.

    Also, as Primitive Baptists, we take the P of the TULIP to be Preservation of the Saints. Perseverance would indicate that someone who "falls off the wagon" wasn't saved in the first place, and that's a position that we do not hold to.

    BTW, massdak, the first question was "Are you Calvinist?" It wasn't "Are you Calvinistic?" I might be more apt to say we are somewhat calvinistic in our beliefs simply because that doctrine is more widely known than our own and most understand that you believe in Grace when you say you are calvinistic. However, we are not calvinist, which indicates that one is a follower of Calvin's teachings.

    Interesting that one person thinks that no one will be in hell. I guess the devil will be redeemed after all? :confused:
     
  10. massdak

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    [/QUOTE]That's the first time I've heard the PB position described as liberal.

    I have to agree with my brother pinoybaptist on this one. I voted false on all except OSAS. Although, the way most people believe OSAS would put me at odds against them since I believe my salvation was done before I was even born. There was no time in my life when I was not saved.

    Also, as Primitive Baptists, we take the P of the TULIP to be Preservation of the Saints. Perseverance would indicate that someone who "falls off the wagon" wasn't saved in the first place, and that's a position that we do not hold to.

    BTW, massdak, the first question was "Are you Calvinist?" It wasn't "Are you Calvinistic?" I might be more apt to say we are somewhat calvinistic in our beliefs simply because that doctrine is more widely known than our own and most understand that you believe in Grace when you say you are calvinistic. However, we are not calvinist, which indicates that one is a follower of Calvin's teachings.

    Interesting that one person thinks that no one will be in hell. I guess the devil will be redeemed after all? :confused: [/QB][/QUOTE]

    the way that the poll is going it seems a lot of people are being disingenuous toward the question about being more calvinistic or arminian.
    this describes more of a persons doctrinal leaning, it is not a written stone label.
    also the question regarding conservatives moderates and liberals seems to be off too.
    my bet is most who chose moderate are really liberal. i should have left off the moderate choice and asked those who consider themselves moderate to just choose liberal.
     
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    OK, I guess I'm just weird then. I voted 'True' on both the Calvinist and Armenian questions (long story...but I really don't fit in either group, I guess).

    I am very conservative, definately not liberal, definately not moderate.

    Question: How can someone undo what only God can do? (I've always wondered about that...)

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     

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