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What have the Democrats done to create jobs?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, May 4, 2009.

  1. LeBuick

    LeBuick New Member

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    Not sure how you assembled this thought... :applause::applause:


    The new jobs will come from the infrastructure spending and all the residual industries that will ramp up to support the contractors. These are private sector jobs and not government by the way. The government is the customer.

    And, in case you haven't noticed, stabilizing the banks has already opened the credit lines which are keeping the doors off small to medium business open. Those are counted a jobs saved and not new jobs...

    Don't worry Obama won't be able to cheat on the count with all the conservative buzzards circling around, waiting for a mistake...
     
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    The only one hiring is the federal, and possibly some state, government.
     
  3. LeBuick

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    Not here, construction is hiring and so is the medical community.
     
  4. OldRegular

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    What does that have to do with the democrats?
     
  5. LeBuick

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    Stimulus projects... The ones the republican's voted NO.
     
  6. BigBossman

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    What's so crazy is when Obama was campaigning, he took a solid stance on eliminating earmarks. He kept constantly saying he would go through "line by line" & eliminate them. He didn't do any of the sort. He didn't even bother to read it. He just signed it.

    He should have taken his time & eliminated the spending that we didn't need in that package. I'm all for using that money to put people to work or for tax relief. Using money to pay for a study on why pigs smell bad or digital TV conversion had absolutely nothing to do with our economy. It was very wasteful.

    He can't blame Bush for putting our children & grandchildren in debt.
     
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    The so-called stimulus bill was a composite of socialist legislation the democrats have been waiting years to pass, that is all. And that is the reason the Republicans voted NO!
     
  8. Old Scholar

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    Just remember that when Obama came into office, the federal budget left last year by George Bush was $450 billion. Where is it today? In a few years it will be $7 trillion.

    The day after the election, unemployment went from less than 6% to where it it today at 8.9% and that doesn't even mention those areas where it is over 14%. In Florida it is now 11%. That's real change folks.....Hope those who voted for this I____ realize why things are going as they are.

    And on the new jobs, we are still losing 600,000 jobs per month and it's growing and that's allowing for new jobs being created. That's the net.

    Even with the Democrats in control of congress for Bush's last two years, he was able to keep the economy from collapsing. The housing problem was Barney Fag, excuse me, Barney Frank, and Chris Dodd and Dodd will lost the election next year but Barney Fag, I mean Frank, is from Mass. and they don't really care about anything there but themselves and whatever their Reps can bring them.

    Obama better work hard and fast because I predict the Senate will return to Republican control in 2010 and he will then be stopped from creating his Socialist agenda. If they don't make it to complete control you can bet they will gain enough votes to break the 60 vote hold the Demos have now and 2012 will be Obama's last day. Every Democrat elected president in the last 40 years was followed by a Republican. People vote for them but then see what they are really like........Sad!
     
  9. rbell

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    As usual, LB ignores the fact that the Government is ending up with controlling interest in several banks...and they are turning over majority control of Chrysler to a wing of the Democratic party (the UAW...the reason American cars aren't worth owning)...

    Like I said...Fascism: the industries are apparently privately owned...but the government owns the production process.

    If you need help, check out a basic government textbook (one that actually teaches something). It will re-inforce that we are headed into a fascist way of running AmeriKa.
     
  10. rbell

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    Riiiight...I forgot: it's the gubmint's job to control the economy, do the hiring, and create jobs. ( :rolleyes: )

    Just wondering: when we wipe our rear ends with the Constitution, is it one-ply, or do we go for double-ply?
     
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    http://mainstreet.com/article/career/employment/propublica-fact-checking-obama-job-count

     
  12. Revmitchell

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    So obama lied once again
     
  13. windcatcher

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    If all that stimulus and bailout money had been given to the people as a one time windfall on which we all had to pay capital gains of income tax....... we would have had more stimulus than we do now.

    No doubt we'd have a sudden jerk in inflation unless a temporary price freeze and wage freexe was also included, and some temporary injunction to hold prices such as new services or transfer of property to fair market value limits: No doubt we'd continue buying cheap from China and elsewhere, unless protective tariffs were imposed and incentives added to buy American.

    Beyond that, a portion of people would take early retirement and clear their positions for new employees.

    A portion of the people would invest or try to purchase the dreams they never thought they could afford..... a home for some, a vaction for others, a medical option which wasn't affordable before, a new car, a second car, some landscaping, a boat, a vacation home, remodeling of an older home, some would have children, and some would further their education, paying off their mortgages or avoiding foreclosure. Some mothers would stop working and stay home with their children, some would home school, some would invest in alternative education to the public schools.

    And a portion of people would reinvest, hopefully in American stock and banks and industry, or start the business venture they'd always dreamed about which seemed impossible before. Farmers might invest in expensive labor saving equipment or in buttressing their terraces to prevent soil washouts, and run offs, or add fallow land rotation to their crops (which is Biblical land conservation, BTW).

    No doubt the survivalist industries might see some growth of people building shelters, or adding water purification, or investing in alternative energy.

    And some would gamble away their windfall.

    While some might give up their jobs all together, others might release from employers and locations which stiffled their possibilities. I think many who would think now of quitting their jobs...... would be surprised at how quickly bored they might get, lazy and unhappy, and return to that work which required some structure and purpose in their lives.

    Many current government programs, would cease, for a while, to be needed and others could be substantially reduced. Those who truely were motivated in their work with sincere desire to help others, could move into parrallel occupations, with little added training, to help those who need help with budgets, activities of daily living, paperwork, marketing...... the elderly and the mental or emotionally disabled, to help stabilize their independance: or themselves sponsor foster care and group homes.

    American industry would get a consumer driven jump start: Enterpreneurs would start businesses and offer employment. New investments might consolidate and build new businesses and industry to compete with and replace those which left our country. Deprived of bailout monies the old corporations with the capitol to splurge on lobbyists and perks would be cut at the knees and have to sink or swim with the rising competition of new industry...... without the power to control Congress and manipulate legislation to stiffle competition or give them undue advantage. Employers and employees would both be competitive in looking for quality in workers and offering quality in conditions of employment. Counties would see their property values stablize or increase; The tax base from property, sales, income, and profits would return monies to all the hungry pockets of government: road projects would be planned and built. With the reduction in social services and welfare and other government expenses....... payment on the national debt could ensue.

    Of course this is so flawed as is most any other solution man might dream up, most especially because God hasn't been consulted in the solution, and....... because we do live in a fallen world, and in that world there are spiritual forces which will attack any things humans attempt to do, particularly when we do it without consulting and relying on God, because those forces are at enmity with God and all his creation and particularly against those creatures of clay into which he breahed life who are made after his image to glorify him.
     
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