What if Obama Were A "Sleeper Cell" Candidate?

That's true, but Snopes is a reliable confirmer/debunker of these types of tales. Plus, it is easily verifiable through any other sources. Don't discount them because they go against your biases. There is much more than one site.

As for Hovind, he got what he deserved. He is a quack and a tax evading criminal.

 

Oh gosh, Tim...I can't believe you said that! I just told my hubby the exact same thing the other night. I said, "Obama reminds me of Nicolae off the Left Behind movie." He wanted to know why, and I told him I just couldn't explain it, he just reminds me of him for some reason. I can't believe someone else had this same thought! raying:

 

I'm just wondering what these evil issues might be that Obama stands for that are significantly different from any other democratic party candidate?

 

A discussion best saved for a different thread :smilewinkgrin: But lets just say I completely disagree with you.

IMO not much. I havent ever found a Democrat I'd vote for, because of evil issues. (i.e. pro-choice, gay marriage ect ect)

 

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As far as the "coming out of nowhere" bit is concerned, at least on the national level, that appellation could fit several top politicos of both parties, in recent memory. For some examples, I offer former Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, and the recent Republican House leaders of Speaker Newt Gingrich and Deputy Whip J. C. Watts as well as Gov. Mike Huckabee (What is it with Governors of Arkansas, recently???) as five leading and fairly recent examples on the national scene. Could it merely be that these have, in some way, struck a chord with some listeners??

Once again, it is one thing to markedly disagree with an individual, as I strongly do with Sen. Obama; it is entirely quite another to engage in the speculative guilt by association that I see occurring where such things as one's name is concerned. And FTR, the lineage of my own given name of 'Ed' goes back to the Druids, and the Saxon and Norse, and is not, contra that of John (McCain) or Mike (Michael Huckabee) or James (President Jimmy Carter), of any Biblical and/or Christian derivation, either.

Ed

 

Exactly! Unfortunately!

Ed

 

It may be his youth, but he seems to be more vocal in defending abortion, and gay marriage than the other democrats.. even more so than Hillary.

Of course, i think Hillary beleives the same things, but with age has came political wisdom, and she has learned to not be so vocal.

Again, I would never vote for someone on only my gut feeling, but as a Christian, I have learned that sometimes my gut feelings are ways the Holy Spirit is trying to get my attention...

 

The bolded may be what I am reacting too...
Only Jesus can be that.. and anyone that pretends to be "all things to all Men" is on dangerous grounds.

 

So because he appears to you to be more vocal than other democrats at defending abortion and gay marriage, there has to be an "evil force" behind his rise compared to the rise of any other democrat. Just clarifying.

 

I would have no problem voting for Barack Obama if he is on the ballot in November versus John McCain and Arkansas is a competitive state.

 

I agree. Obama wouldn't be my choice at all, mine is Ron Paul. That being said, if McCain is our choice I will have to vote third party or for Obama.

I can't stand the thought of another four years of Bush v2.0. We need someone that will bring this country back together and since Roe v Wade isn't going to be overturned by a Republican (as shown by the last 6 years of a Repubican WH and Congress, we have to vote on and with more than that in mind.

Is Obama right? No, is he better than more Bush v2.0? Yes.

Jamie

 

I think it is unwise to vote for Obama not McCain based soley on George W. Bush. McCain is not Bush, and I highly doubt he would act just like him. In fact, I feel he is closer to democrat than republican. I would NOT vote for Obama simply because there is not one thing I can think of that I agree with him on. McCain is not my ideal candidate either, but he is closer in my values than Obama. I do not think it is ok to sacrifice my beliefs on abortion just because I think that nothing will change. I feel I have to vote for the one that will make decisions the closest to my values. That is not Obama, and Im surprised that some think it is.

 

That is your entitled opinion. I think McCain, in so much as the war, he would be Bush or worse. This is my opinion and in part why I will vote for Obama if Paul doesn't win.

Please list some example of the last six years, where you feel he is closer to the Democrats.

Lessor of two evils arguement that gets used everytime we don't have anyone worth while to vote for. I am tried of that pitch and will vote for where I feel the strongest, not just where my "party" seems to think I should vote.

What has the Republicans done to stop abortion totaly? When was the last time a Republican brough up a bill to end abortion. Not baby steps, but end it. If they are the party of ProLife, then surely they have presented bills the end it completely given they had the WH and Congress for so long.

So do I and right now my values are we need to get out of this war. We need to stop meddling with the world and work on our own country. Borders, Economy, etc...

Don't be. There are many reasons to vote or not vote for someone. Just because they have an R by their nam means nothing as they are all corrupt.

Jamie

 

Anytime RD! :wavey: I'm not always right either, that's why I like facts.