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What if Palin were POTUS?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by tinytim, May 15, 2009.

  1. OldRegular

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    All you people who are dumping on Sarah Palin should ask yourselves just why the leftists are still trashing her. Think a little for a change!
     
  2. poncho

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    I have thought about it OR. A long time (couple hours) and I come to the conclusion that it's all theater. That's what most of these little left vs right battles in the media are entertainment and distractions with press coverage aplenty.

    The real show is quitely going on behind closed doors in the corporate boardrooms and Bilderberg meetings where all the real decisions are made...without any media coverage.
     
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  3. matt wade

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    He's a puppet...no a robot...no a remote controlled zombie! Argh the Bilderberg's have mastered mind control! The sky is falling. The whole government is under Bilderberg control....we're doomed!
     
  4. poncho

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    How many Trilaterals are there in Obama's administration? Can you tell us Matt?

    Can you tell us what the original stated purpose of the Trilateral commission was Matt?

    Did you know Matt that most of the Trilateral policies implemented in the USA were determined by non Americans outside of the USA?

    Did you know Matt that eight out of ten world bank presidents were Trilateral members?

    Did you know Matt that eight out of ten U.S. trade representitives were members of the Trilateral commission? Including Robert Zoelick.

    Did you know Matt that seven out of twelve secretaries of state were Trilateral members? Hillary Clinton's husband Bill is a Trilateral member...did you know that Matt?

    Did you know Matt that nine out of twelve secretaries of defense were Trilateral members?

    Did you know Matt that the President and/or Vice-President of every elected administration has been a Trilateral member?

    And all this since Brzezinski and David Rockefeller founded the Trilateral commission in 1973. Did you know any of this Matt?

    Do you know who gave Obama his first job out of college Matt?

    Do know who Obama's closest advisers are Matt?

    Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Brent Scowcroft and Paul Volker. All members with some being founders of the Trilateral commision.

    Have you read any books or policy papers authored by these guys Matt?

    Does any of this sink in at all Matt? If not let me help ya out a little bit.

    The policies for the USA are being drawn up and implemented by a group of internationalists with the majority of them being non Americans outside the USA who's original founding statement was... to create a "New International Economic Order."

    Its current statement of purpose is to form a "closer cooperation among these core democratic industrialized areas of the world with shared leadership responsibilities in the wider international system."

    See the Trilaterals website.


    These are the Trilateral members now in Obama's administration.


    1- Secretary of Treasury, Tim Geithner
    2- Ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice
    3- National Security Advisor, Thomas Donilon
    4- Chairman, Economic Recovery Committee, Paul Volker
    5- Director of National Intelligence, Admiral Dennis C. Blair
    6- Assistant Secretary of State, Asia & Pacific, Kurt M. Campbell
    7- Deputy Secretary of State, James Steinberg
    8- State Department, Special Envoy, Richard Haass
    9- State Department, Special Envoy, Dennis Ross
    10- State Department, Special Envoy, Richard Holbrooke


    In 1972, Brzezinski wrote that "nation-state as a fundamental unit of man's organized life has ceased to be the principal creative force: International banks and multinational corporations are acting and planning in terms that are far in advance of the political concepts of the nation-state."

    The late Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) was one of a very few people who understood what Brzezinski was alluding to, when he issued a clear and precise warning in his 1979 book, With No Apologies:
    “The Trilateral Commission is international and is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power – political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical.” [1]
    References. [1] [2] [3] [4]


    Did you know any of this at all Matt? Or is it that you have just been conditioned into making fun of people who obviously have a greater knowledge of what's going on around them than yourself because you think it's cute? Did you know Matt that the CFR is a cooperative organization with many of the same goals as the Trilateral commission Matt? Did you know that most of the mega conglomerated media outlets...where you get your "knowledge" from is made up of CFR members? Did you know that by controlling all the information going out over the airwaves that they do indeed control what goes into your mind?

    If the Council on Foreign Relations could be said to be a spawning ground for the concepts of one-world idealism, then the Trilateral Commission was the "task force" assembled to assault the beachheads. Already the Commission had placed its members in the top posts the U.S. had to offer. [1]


    You didn't know any of this did you Matt? No probably not because you seem to only know what goes on in the many theatrical displays and distractions that get plenty of airtime and corporate media coverage. Isn't that right Matt?

    So, would any of this have been different if McCain and Palin were elected? No because McCain was being backed by the very same Trilateral Commission.

    John McCain is being supported by several Trilateral Commission giants including: Henry Kissinger, George Schultz, Lawrence Eagleburger and Alexander Haig. All of these are ex-Secretaries of State who issued a joint endorsement of McCain early-on in his campaign.

    And, unless Obama shoots both of his own feet (or…?) before the general presidential election in November, he is most likely to be the next president of the United States.

    You would think that Americans would want to know who the “special interests” are that are embodied by this Trilateral Commission, and what they intend to do or not do with America. [1]

    Apparently Matt doesn't want to know.

    Every major crisis we face today is directly attributable to policies put forth and executed by members of this Trilateral Commission: Banking/lending/mortgage crisis, energy/gas price crisis, food/shortage/price crisis.

    In addition, in the last fifteen to twenty years we have lost of millions of prime manufacturing jobs to China, India and Mexico. Our prime assets are being purchased by sovereign wealth funds and foreign investors. Our currency has all but been destroyed throughout the world.

    Remember Brzezinski's vision that "international banks and multinational corporations are acting and planning in terms that are far in advance of the political concepts of the nation-state"?

    Well, that’s been true enough. But, for all their acting and planning at the expense of our own prosperity and [​IMG]Sovereignty, who wants or needs more of the same under Obama or McCain? With friends like this, who needs enemies? [1]

    Well, now that you do know whether you wanted to or not...what are you going to do about it Matt?
     
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  5. matt wade

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    Just because you say my name a lot doesn't mean your conspiracy theory is true.

    Here's another for you. 11 of the 12 men to walk on the moon were involved in Scouting. The Scouts have a secret agenda to establish a base on the moon! All those guys were part of Scouts, so it must be true!
     
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  6. poncho

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    Making even more foolish statements like this doesn't cover up for your lack of knowledge on a subject you obviously aren't prepared to debate, Matt.

    Look at the facts then look at your statements. Others are and they'll probably notice that you didn't even attempt to answer any of the questions aimed at you. I'm pretty sure I know why but it may prove to be more uh, rewarding if you "splained" it in your own words for us. So then why is it that you can only come up with more foolish statements instead of actual arguements? Hmmmmm? :smilewinkgrin:
     
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  7. matt wade

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    I don't debate wacko consirpacy theorys. Sorry, it isn't worth my time.

    Yes, others are reading it. You'll likely get some support from the other conspiracy theorists on this board, but most will just have a good laugh with me.
     
  8. poncho

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    So, in other words you're incapable of mounting a real rebuttal when faced with a few basic facts in black and white. I see. So, then why bother to put in your two cents and make yourself look foolish twice in one thread? Not something to laugh about imho but I do have a certain amount of pity for you. I wouldn't want to force you to toss even more foolish statements around just to prove a point I've already proven. So, consider yourself off the hook then. Have a good day, Matt. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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  9. OldRegular

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    SARAH PALIN FOR PRESIDENT! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
  10. poncho

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    Never gonna happen OR. Hillary Clinton is the Bilderberg/Trilateral/CFR queen.
     
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    SARAH PALIN FOR PRESIDENT! :love2::love2::love2::love2:
     
  12. OldRegular

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    Can't I get at least one Amen here?
     
  13. LeBuick

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    Scare me brother.... It scares me that the only criteria you have for president is that one be pro-life and can care less about their other abilities or knowledge about government, history, foreign interactions or law.

    She could not name a supreme court decision other than Roe v Wade? And you would want her leading the nation? How can she defend the constitution if she doesn't know what is in it? Sure they can stay up late getting her to memorize enough to get by but then those principles are not working knowledge or guiding principles they are simply memorized facts since she can't apply them to our complex form of government.

    Now much can be said against Obama. Some of it rightly so. But he was a constitutional law professor and graduated top of his Harvard law class. IOW, he knows something about how law and government works...
     
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    Amen brother and amen. There were other reports of ignorance in other areas:

    Remember her saying she had foreign policy experience because Alaska is near Russia [Siberia]

    There is more, but the point is obvious. She was not presidential material.
     
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    Why are her gaffes so bad, but Obama thinking we had 57 states, being unable to pronounce "Massachusetts", giving asthmatic kids "breathalyzers", instead of inhalers, so forgivable ? What has he done that shows Foreign Policy prowess ?

    Because you buy into leftist spin, and refuse to investigate further. Very typical.

    If Palin was disqualified, then certainly Obama & Biden must be, as well.
     
  16. poncho

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    Obama doesn't need to know anything about foreign policy as he has Zbigniew Brzezinski and Richard Hass to do his thinking for him in this area. In other words we have two of the biggest "one worlders" in charge of our foreign policy. Things would be about the same under McCain/Palin except that "conservatives" would fall into line (without question) and agree with Brzezinski and Haas's idea of world domination through military conquest. They bought it hook line and sinker under Bush and now it's the democrats turn to be "neoconned" by these anti American one worlders who have taken over our government.

    Same thing as we had before under the republicrats only this time it has a "left cover" to make the demopublicans think things will be different this time around. It won't be of course as we're just getting more of the same from the same people. Same ole plays from the same ole playbook.
     
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    I agree with you on this point.

    Don't get me wrong, I love what Palin stands for .. but for some reason .. I don't feel "comfortable" quite yet with her as a Presidential candidate. I can't picture her as a President.

    And it doesn't have anything to do with her being a woman either, so please nobody say that .. :thumbsup: .. it's just how I feel.

    Then again, what do I know!
     
  18. OldRegular

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    You sound more like JC every day. You and crabtownboy make a pair. Even if obama was a constitutional law professor and graduated at top of his Harvard class [proof please] that doesn't mean he knows anything about the constitution. He proved that when he indicated the type of Supreme Court Justice he wanted: one who would rewrite the Constitution. Frankly I don't believe he has enough sense to hit his rear with both hands!

    I suspect that 90+% of the stuff written about Governor Palin is a lie. The leftists are scared to death of her for the simple reason that she is genuine. She is not an empty suit like bho, a motor mouth like biden and a bunch of nonpatriots like all those democrats in Congress who tried to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory in Iraq.

    obama showed his true nature in his speech this week, blaming President Bush 28 times for his own inability to do anything right. obama is a narcissistic, pathological liar.
     
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    If Obama is a constitutional lawyer how is it then he voted for the Patriot act? Being a constitutional lawyer he should know these pieces of legislation are un-constitutional. I think it would be more accurate to descibe him as an un-constitutional lawyer.

    Obama is a poser. He's only there to lead the left down the same path of destruction the Bushies led the right. The road to one world government and they can't have their one world government with a free and independent USA.
     
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    You have proof he wants a justice what will rewrite the constitution or is this strictly your speculation? You said he proved it, proved it to whom?

    You show your state of denial, the things we cited were things we saw on the TV and not read somewhere. She was asked what periodicals she read. No answer. What supreme court decision besides roe v wade do you agree with. No answer. What legislation has your running mate introduced to congress. No answer.

    You are still in denial, she lost against Obama in the last election. Why would anyone be afraid of her in the next??? If I still support Obama by the next election (and there is no guarantee I will) I hope she is his opponent. Should be a land slide from my perspective. She will carry the south and Obama will have the rest of the nation.

    Still in denial. Obama also said "I am the president and solely responsible for the safety of this nation". Sounds like he took ownership of his responsibilities to me.
     
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