What is Dressing Like the World?

It's not a definition, but there are verses that deal with the speed limit.

Romans 13:1-7

13 1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience. 6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
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I don't find any similar verses for dressing up. (I'm sure someone has mentioned James though)

James 2:1-4

2 1 My brothers and sisters, believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ must not show favoritism. 2 Suppose a man comes into your meeting wearing a gold ring and fine clothes, and a poor man in filthy old clothes also comes in. 3 If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, “Here’s a good seat for you,” but say to the poor man, “You stand there” or “Sit on the floor by my feet,” 4 have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?
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And if they are in a truly "spiritual" state of mind, how you are dressed wouldn't matter because it is modest.

 

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Well yes our dress is part of glorifying God....if we are ONLY dressing the part, then NO it would not (like the Pharisees), however, when we glorify God in the heart it will manifest itself outwardly. Again look at 1 Tim. 2:9 & 10.

WEBDOG: What we wear has no bearing on our heart condition.

Here you disagree with me

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1Ti 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1Ti 2:10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

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Yes, appropriate dress is modesty in body and spirit. Modesty has the idea of being well arranged or balance or appropriately dressed. A woman professing Godliness will dress what is in her heart...she will dress to cover herself, so should the man. (not worldly, over the top or sensual)

WEBDOG: Agreed.

Here you agree...just curious which is it????

 

Which is what? Based on the wording, the flow of the conversation and understanding of his position my answers stand. Please don't cherry pick bits and pieces from a conversation in order to construct an "ah ha, I got you now" moment. The burden of proof is on you guys to show that "appropriate, modest dress" means wearing a suit and tie...or dress.

 

My point is what this verse is teaching "modesty from the heart will manifest itself outward in our dress (modest dress). You disagreed then you agreed, I just wanted to know if you agreed or not...it was not intended as a "Gotcha" moment.

I never mentioned a Dress, However I believe that a modest Dress for church would certainly honor and glorify God and be appropriate for a godly woman to wear. As far as a suit and tie, I believe it is the appropriate dress for the Pastor to wear while preaching in the pulpit and I will leave it there because I have already explained why.

 

1Co 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1Co 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

 

If'n the pastor is the Joel Osteen type it will be hard to tell, because all three will be trying to get in your wallet, you could complicate it even more by adding a politician to the mix.

 

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I'm Late On This One, BUT....

....I would say that as long as your attire doesn't offend others, or cause another to stumble, then it is acceptable.

I have complained to our pastor in the past about some of the teen girls and young women who dress in a manner that causes men to take a second, third, fourth or lustful look!

When I was the administrator of an alcohol and drug counseling center, I once sent home a counselor for wearing a tube top and hot pants.

She tried to sue me and the agency, but, there has to be some kind of dress code not only at work, but in church.

My pastor confided to me that it is often difficult to get the teens and young women to understand that modest dress is imperative, especially when their worldly styles excite the men and cause them to lust. He told me that female attire is a constant battle, and one that always end up hurting feelings and sometimes losing the poorly attired individual and their family.

I say, so be it! There must be a line drawn in the sand when it comes to attire, and if the church is not willing to draw the line, then I would say find a new church.

As for men wearing ties! I don't remember any scripture that tells a man to wear a tie. And personally, I don't like tight things around my neck. In the churches, I was blessed to lead. I dressed nice, but casual. Some of the older folk questioned my commitment to the Kingdom, but I always told them what I wore on the outside had nothing to do with how much I loved my Lord.

The only thing I am truly against is a person wearing sunglasses in church. I love to be able to see the eyes. I always think they are hiding something! :laugh:

End of the story. There's been some great points made on this topic. Thanks for all those who tried to enlighten us and share from their heart!

Pastor Paul :type:

 

One benefit for your Pastor wearing a tie? If'n he preaches something you don't agree with, the noose is already there so you can hang him and swang him!!!

 

Best response yet!

 

There was a time Baptists knew why their pastor wore no clerical collar and no robe.

Now some try to turn the suit and tie into the robe and collar theologically.

Man, we need better discipleship training again.

 

AMEN! :thumbsup:

 

Excuse me but there is nothing "theological" about dress- unless you are Catholic.

 

I think that was the point.

 

I always wore a clerical collar! My habit came from the military, where all chaplains wore a collar. Nothing to do with Catholic theology.

Cheers,

Jim