What is Heresy ?

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  1. LadyEagle

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    http://www.letusreason.org/Pent38.htm
     
  2. John Wells

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    Good link . . . appreciate it very much! ;)
     
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    That'll preach.

    Word like HERESY is easily leveled and bantered about. Words having meaning. Glad to see someone working with that concept!
     
  4. dianetavegia

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    Thanks SheEagle! I think we've seen that word in action lately.

    Diane
     
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    I don't understand how the second sentence in this quote from the article relates to the first one sentence: "Heresies about Salvation — Denying the gospel which is centered on the atonement from Christ's death on the cross and his work for our salvation. Instead it is found in hell where he furthered suffered." :confused:
     
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    If I'm reading that right Ken, they're saying that some heretics say that our salvation comes from Jesus going into hell and suffering for our sins. It's worded funny tho, isn't it?

    Check out their Statement of Faith. [​IMG] Great pages, SheEagle!

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  7. Me2

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    Paul was speaking of those who didnt believe Jesus was "in them" at that moment.

    not that jesus the man lived and died "in his own flesh"



    1Jo 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
    1Jo 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
    1Jo 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
    1Jo 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.

    [ July 13, 2003, 09:00 PM: Message edited by: Me2 ]
     
  8. Me2

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    sorry, my mistake...That was John..duh.

    but lets move on.,

    2Jo 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
    2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
    2Jo 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
    2Jo 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
    2Jo 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into [your] house, neither bid him God speed:

    would that exclude many "professing" christians, or what?

    Col 1:26 [Even] the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
    Col 1:27 To whom God would make known what [is] the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
    Col 1:28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

    Christ "in you"...the high priest before our father continually making intersession...

    Rom 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
    Rom 8:25 But if we hope for that we see not, [then] do we with patience wait for [it].
    Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
    Rom 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what [is] the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to [the will of] God.
    Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his] purpose.
    Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate [to be] conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
    Rom 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
    Rom 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God [be] for us, who [can be] against us?
    Rom 8:32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
    Rom 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? [It is] God that justifieth.
    Rom 8:34 Who [is] he that condemneth? [It is] Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
    Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
    Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
    Rom 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
    Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
    Rom 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    either a person knows christ "is within them", or not. Its that simple. their spirit will (confess or testify) express this freely and openly...

    without prompting
     

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